Be wary of unlawful arrests if you're stopped by cops over the holidays

[Bradley Prior]

Be wary of unlawful arrests if you're stopped by cops over the holidays

South Africans should be aware that the Road Traffic Management Agency (RTMC)'s recent threat of arrest for unpaid traffic fines for those driving during the December holidays is unlawful, according to Justice Project South Africa (JPSA).

 

[LCBXX]

If you don't have unpaid fines, you have nothing to worry about, yes?

 

[Hemi300c]

Dicktators doing what they do best. Any and all anc are above the law and make things up as they go along

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

If you don't have unpaid fines, you have nothing to worry about, yes?

not necessarily,
need to pay the cool-drink tax.

SA cops want something for their "trouble"

 

[LCBXX]

Dicktators doing what they do best. Any and all anc are above the law and make things up as they go along

Pay your fines. Then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[LCBXX]

not necessarily,
need to pay the cool-drink tax.

SA cops want something for their "trouble"

Why would you be threatened with arrest when your vehicle is roadworthy, your licence is valid and you have no overdue fines, and you refuse to pay a bribe??

 

[lotus123]

If you don't have unpaid fines, you have nothing to worry about, yes?

Here's a thought... what if you don't know you have unpaid traffic fines?

 

[LCBXX]

Here's a thought... what if you don't know you have unpaid traffic fines?

Then you go and check on the AARTO website before you embark on your journey, or the numerous other websites that offer similar services.

Don't glorify the problem.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Why would you be threatened with arrest when your vehicle is roadworthy, your licence is valid and you have no overdue fines, and you refuse to pay a bribe??

you've obviously never been to the east rand.
at one stage saw my wallet, opened it and took money out of it in front of my eyes.

those guys are bigger criminals that the actual criminals.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Bonus time!

Ghost squad is waiting around the corners!

 

[UrBaN963]

Then you go and check on the AARTO website before you embark on your journey, or the numerous other websites that offer similar services.

Don't glorify the problem.

You're being silly.

Yes, fines should be paid where they're valid.

But arrest is not described as a punishment or consequence for not paying. If there's a warrant it may be a different matter, but unpaid fines are not an arrestable offense.

 

[mister]

If you don't have unpaid fines, you have nothing to worry about, yes?

I have unpaid fines from the SABC for not paying my TV license... do I have anything to worry about?

 

[LCBXX]

you've obviously never been to the east rand.
at one stage saw my wallet, opened it and took money out of it in front of my eyes.

those guys are bigger criminals that the actual criminals.

That's a rather extraordinary experience. Wow.

 

[LCBXX]

You're being silly.

Yes, fines should be paid where they're valid.

But arrest is not described as a punishment or consequence for not paying. If there's a warrant it may be a different matter, but unpaid fines are not an arrestable offense.

Why am I silly? If you committed a traffic offence and were issued with a fine, you need to either dispute it officially or pay it.

Am I missing something?

 

[borro]

Dash>>cam

 

[UrBaN963]

Why am I silly? If you committed a traffic offence and were issued with a fine, you need to either dispute it officially or pay it.

Am I missing something?

You're intentionally obfuscating the issue.

The point of the article was clearly that you cannot be arrested for unpaid fines. Not whether or not you should have paid your fines. The article points to corruption and an overreach of power.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

That's a rather extraordinary experience. Wow.

I shared that experience, when I was nearly arrested the one time,
sebenza SAPS, even drove my car, wanted to throw me in jail for stopping to talk on the phone.
wanted bribe money, I figured it was the end of their shift, here's a whitey, well dressed,
lets scare the Cr@p out of him, and try to get something for our "trouble"

 

[LCBXX]

You're intentionally obfuscating the issue.

The point of the article was clearly that you cannot be arrested for unpaid fines. Not whether or not you should have paid your fines. The article points to corruption and an overreach of power.

All I'm saying is that if you don't have unpaid fines, this overreach of authority doesn't apply to you. Leave it to the legal experts of JPSA to challenge.

 

[UrBaN963]

All I'm saying is that if you don't have unpaid fines, this overreach of authority doesn't apply to you. Leave it to the legal experts of JPSA to challenge.

Not exactly. The fact that they're stating this and we're discussing it already points to their corruption. So the fact you don't have fines doesn't mean they will suddenly be moral, upstanding law-enforcement officers.

 

[ilikepi]

With aliens flying about and Covid making a come back and even cops trying to snatch money out my wallet, I think I'm not leaving my house anymore