Best quality MacBook Pro MagSafe 2 generic chargers

[Rickster]

I dont understand how a cable can fray like that? Do people pull the cord instead of the connector?

 

[PostmanPot]

So tell me please, why did my rMBP 15 cable fray after about two years of careful use...

Because you weren't actually careful, unless you're telling us that the cable just frayed by itself.

 

[riscbroker]

Hey PP, I came across this:

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/1876...A_A1278_A1330_18_5V_4_64A_85W_AC_Adaptor.html

I don't know whether this is genuine kit, or if the price is any good.

 

[PostmanPot]

Hey PP, I came across this:

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/1876...A_A1278_A1330_18_5V_4_64A_85W_AC_Adaptor.html

I don't know whether this is genuine kit, or if the price is any good.

Thanks man. Probably generic, also 85w and MagSafe 1.

 

[Space_Chief]

Because you weren't actually careful, unless you're telling us that the cable just frayed by itself.

That ridiculous response assumes Apple's products cannot be faulty and I am either an idiot or a liar.

Are you calling me an idiot?
Are you calling me a liar?
Or are Apple products beyond fault?

Make your choice and provide proof.

I was more than careful. So bzzzt wrong. Poor Apple quality or form over function is the cause, your fanboyism aside. Logic. I don't damage other, more delicate things in my work or in my life. So I'm not an idiot.

Why do other makes not fray?

And what would constitute "careful" use. Before you pass judgement, you need to define what careful use is. Is it in Apple's manual?

 

[Space_Chief]

I dont understand how a cable can fray like that? Do people pull the cord instead of the connector?

I don't know about people, but I plug in and take out the actual connector. There is also never tension on the cable. On the other hand, other devices - Acer, Toshiba, Panasonic and so on, have not had these issues, but the design of their cables is different. Their cables are actually strengthened in the 90 degree joints.

Of course I should not mention Panasonic here as they make the best build and most reliable laptops, and are assembled in Osaka Japan. It would be unfair to compare a design in California and assembled in PRC product to that. But I give you Acer which is designed in TW and assembled in PRC and costs about 50-60% of Apples' price.

 

[PostmanPot]

That ridiculous response assumes Apple's products cannot be faulty and I am either an idiot or a liar.

Are you calling me an idiot?
Are you calling me a liar?
Or are Apple products beyond fault?

Make your choice and provide proof.

I was more than careful. So bzzzt wrong. Poor Apple quality or form over function is the cause, your fanboyism aside. Logic. I don't damage other, more delicate things in my work or in my life. So I'm not an idiot.

Why do other makes not fray?

And what would constitute "careful" use. Before you pass judgement, you need to define what careful use is. Is it in Apple's manual?

So the cable just frayed by itself; you didn't do anything? Gotcha.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

I wouldn't touch generic chargers. I've watched a few teardown videos and seen how shoddy they are designed.

 

[PostmanPot]

I wouldn't touch generic chargers. I've watched a few teardown videos and seen how shoddy they are designed.

Agreed, but they're probably OK for a few hours a week.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

Agreed, but they're probably OK for a few hours a week.

I would just spend the extra money and get the original. One of the main issues seen with these generics is poor isolation between the AC and DC components on the PCBs, not only dangerous to the connected device but also a fire hazard.

 

[PostmanPot]

I would just spend the extra money and get the original. One of the main issues seen with these generics is poor isolation between the AC and DC components on the PCBs, not only dangerous to the connected device but also a fire hazard.

Definitely, am going that route.

I'm sure they have many shortcomings, also went through grantza's link.

 

[Space_Chief]

So the cable just frayed by itself; you didn't do anything? Gotcha.

Yup I didn't do anything unreasonable or abusive. My regular or even careful use still resulted in fraying. Now maybe it's standard for Apple stuff to wear out after about 2 years - who knows. If it is, shame on them. If it's not, they sold me a faulty cable.

Of course the control in this case was the Acer, Toshiba and so on. These did not fray. Haha, even my prev MagSafe I for my previous MBP 15 did not fray after a similar period of even tougher use.

 

[bwana]

Yup I didn't do anything unreasonable or abusive. My regular or even careful use still resulted in fraying. Now maybe it's standard for Apple stuff to wear out after about 2 years - who knows. If it is, shame on them. If it's not, they sold me a faulty cable.

Was it one of those L shaped ones? Or the T shaped?

 

[PostmanPot]

Yup I didn't do anything unreasonable or abusive. My regular or even careful use still resulted in fraying. Now maybe it's standard for Apple stuff to wear out after about 2 years - who knows. If it is, shame on them. If it's not, they sold me a faulty cable.

Of course the control in this case was the Acer, Toshiba and so on. These did not fray. Haha, even my prev MagSafe I for my previous MBP 15 did not fray after a similar period of even tougher use.

I will agree that normal laptop chargers are of better durable quality.

They also look ugly, are often short, not as well thought out, etc.

I disagree that the MacBook chargers are as problematic as you make them out to be. Perhaps from being wound up and bent too often.

 

[Space_Chief]

I will agree that normal laptop chargers are of better durable quality.

Whooooaaaa..... I am impressed.

They also look ugly, are often short, not as well thought out, etc.

Does not make sense given they offer better durability. In fact they are better thought out.

I disagree that the MacBook chargers are as problematic as you make them out to be. Perhaps from being wound up and bent too often.

This suggests a design problem. They could have enforced their bends to prevent that. But that would mean more $ spent, less re-purchases and so less money to be made, and Apple fanboys will defend them even when irrational to do so. That's why Apple is a scumbag company, pretty much like M$. This is a type of f-you from them to the customer.

 

[Space_Chief]

Was it one of those L shaped ones? Or the T shaped?

One which plugs on the side, perpendicular to the long axis of the cable, old 2010 MBP 15. Magsafe 1.

Magsafe 2 is inline with the long axis of the cable, or at least on my rMBP 10,1.

 

[PostmanPot]

This suggests a design problem. They could have enforced their bends to prevent that. But that would mean more $ spent, less re-purchases and so less money to be made, and Apple fanboys will defend them even when irrational to do so. That's why Apple is a scumbag company, pretty much like M$. This is a type of f-you from them to the customer.

I think we can say the same for most companies, it's unfortunately a fact of modern life.

I still disagree though, I don't think the cables are problematic if they're looked after.

Are you referring to these bends?

 

[bwana]

One which plugs on the side, perpendicular to the long axis of the cable, old 2010 MBP 15. Magsafe 1.

Magsafe 2 is inline with the long axis of the cable, or at least on my rMBP 10,1.

Theses are both MagSafe 1 connectors. The one on the right was more prone to fraying which is why they dropped it from the MagSafe 2.

 

[PostmanPot]

The one on the right was more prone to fraying which is why they dropped it from the MagSafe 2.

I can see why due to how many people would just yank them off.

 

[Lord Flacko]

If you have enough money for a MacBook, just over a grand for a MagSafe Power Adapter should not be an issue.