Best way to get you deposit back after moving out?

Amida

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Hi Guys

As the tittle suggests what would be the best approach. We've always paid on time had a contract and everything.

Firstly the guy said he had to clean carpets which he deducted R400 of the deposit which is probably ok I guess.

We also left the place spotless clean and without any damages.

Is there another way apart from involving lawyers or do you just cut your losses?
 

OhGats

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I think there is some sort of issue that the deposit can be held back for a certain period to settle utility bills that are a month in arrears. And also seem to recall that your deposit should acrue interest while it is being held. Fair use and wear and tear of the property comes is also taken into account when the deposit is refunded.
 

Freshy-ZN

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Typical. Trying to take a chance. If you are convinced that the carpets have suffered nothing more than reasonable wear and tear then tell the person you do not consent. They always try to get a free carpet cleaning at the expense of the outgoing tenants.
 

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i think some how the owners always want to make money... i think it's very hard to get your money in full...
 

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I seem to recall a similar thread. Try searching for it. There the recommendation was to go to the Rental Housing Commission (or similar name) which, if you are in a city, you should be able to find. Good luck.
 

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The normal turn around time for your deposit being paid back is whenever they finished the inspection/repair of any damage you might have caused.

Cleaning carpets is a part of that, but after that they had to return the rest of your deposit back promptly.

Is this with an owner themselves or a rental company? Your deposit should usually be kept in an interest bearing savings account by whomever.

Depending on how big a deposit it is, you might want to write it off.

As for the month in arrears re: utility bills etc, you usually don't worry about that, the owner has to (depending if he was smart enough to have the utility bills in your name or not) and won't be able to deduct that off your deposit as it's normally not part of the agreement.

As an ex-owner I had to cover the first month's utility bill myself, so the "arrears" was actually paid by the tenant, when they moved out, they didn't have to worry about another bill biting them in the ass because they were paying for what they used i the first place
 

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Even rentals companies keep deposits for as long as possible :

I gave my rental company (Just Letting) notice to give back their deposit on 16 January 2009. Two weeks ago they were still fighting over it :/
 

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Is this with an owner themselves or a rental company? Your deposit should usually be kept in an interest bearing savings account by whomever.

1.Read the Rental housing act; there are quite a few clauses that very few Lessors abide by which are actually punishable offences.
2. Quote some of these clauses to Lessor and threaten to report him/her if deposit is not returned within x amount of time.
3.??????
4.Profit!

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Rental housing ACt 50 of 1999 as amended by the Rental Housing Amendment Act 2007

Section 5 paragraph 3
A lease will be deemed to include terms, enforceable in a competent court, to the effect that-

a) the landlord must furnish the tenant with a written receipt for all payments received by the landlord from the tenant;

b) such receipt must be dated and clearly indicate the address, including the street number and further description, if necessary, of a dwelling in respect of which payment is made, and whether payment has been made for rental, arrears, deposit or otherwise, and specify the period for which payment is made: Provided that a Tribunal may, in exceptional cases, and on application by a landlord, exempt the landlord from providing the information contemplated in this paragraph;

c) the landlord may require a tenant, before moving into the dwelling, to pay a deposit which, at the time, may not exceed an amount equivalent to an amount specified in the agreement or otherwise agreed to between the parties;

d) the deposit contemplated in paragraph (c) must be invested by the landlord in an interest-bearing account with a financial institution and the landlord must subject to paragraph (g) pay the tenant such interest at the rate applicable to such account which may not be less than the rate applicable to a savings account with that financial institution, and the tenant may during the period of the lease request the landlord to provide him or her with written proof in respect of interest accrued on such deposit, and the landlord must provide such proof on request: Provided that where the landlord is a registered estate agent as provided for in the Estate Agency Affairs Act, 1976 (Act No. 112 of 1976), the deposit and any interest thereon shall be dealt with in accordance with the provisions of that Act;

e) the tenant and the landlord must jointly, before the tenant moves into the dwelling, inspect the dwelling to ascertain the existence or not of any defects or damage therein with a view to determining the landlord’s responsibility for rectifying any defects or damage or with a view to registering such defects or damage, as provided for in subsection (7);

f) at the expiration of the lease the landlord and tenant must arrange a joint inspection of the dwelling at a mutually convenient time to take place within a period of three days prior to such expiration with a view to ascertaining if there was any damage caused to the dwelling during the tenant’s occupation thereof;

g) on the expiration of the lease, the landlord may apply such deposit and interest towards the payment of all amounts for which the tenant is liable under the said lease, including the reasonable cost of repairing damage to the dwelling during the lease period and the cost of replacing lost keys and the balance of the deposit and interest, if any, must then be refunded to the tenant by the landlord not later than 14 days of restoration of the dwelling to the landlord;

h) the relevant receipts which indicate the costs which the landlord incurred, as contemplated in paragraph (g), must be available to the tenant for inspection as proof of such costs incurred by the landlord;


i) should no amounts be due and owing to the landlord in terms of the lease, the deposit, together with the accrued interest in respect thereof, must be refunded by the landlord to the tenant, without any deduction or set-off, within seven days of expiration of the lease;

j) failure by the landlord to inspect the dwelling in the presence of the tenant as contemplated in paragraphs (e) or (f) is deemed to be an acknowledgement by the landlord that the dwelling is in a good and proper state of repair, and the landlord will have no further claim against the tenant who must then be refunded, in terms of this subsection, the full deposit plus interest by the landlord;

k) should the tenant fail to respond to the landlord’s request for an inspection as contemplated in paragraph (f), the landlord must, on expiration of the lease, inspect the dwelling within seven days from such expiration in order to assess any damages or loss which occurred during the tenancy;

l) the landlord may in the circumstances contemplated in paragraph (k), without detracting from any other right or remedy of the landlord, deduct from the tenant’s deposit and interest the reasonable cost of repairing damage to the dwelling and the cost of replacing lost keys;

m) the balance of the deposit and interest, if any, after deduction of the amounts contemplated in paragraph (1), must be refunded to the tenant by the landlord not later than 21 days after expiration of the lease;

n) the relevant receipts which indicate the costs which the landlord incurred, as contemplated in paragraph (1), must be available to the tenant for inspection as proof of such costs incurred by the landlord;

o) should the tenant vacate the dwelling before expiration of the lease, without notice to the landlord, the lease is deemed to have expired on the date that the landlord established that the tenant had vacated the dwelling but in such event the landlord retains all his or her rights arising from the tenant’s breach of the lease; and

p) any costs in relation to contract of lease shall only be payable by the tenant upon proof of factual expenditure by the landlord.


This is the section you're looking for. Looks you could even get your entire R6k back ;)
 
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Dolby

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I've always known a deposit to kept in an interest bearing account ; regardless of whether asked.

Of course, this is small interest (mine is 3%)
 

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The deposit is around R6000 so i know it's not a lot of money but it's the principle. The carpets were also not in that bad a condition they were just dirty from wear and tear no stains or anything so I going to tell him I don't accept it.

The utility bills were also in our names and are paid up so he doesn't have to worry about that.

Where can you get hold of the Rental Housing act?
 

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The deposit is around R6000 so i know it's not a lot of money but it's the principle. The carpets were also not in that bad a condition they were just dirty from wear and tear no stains or anything so I going to tell him I don't accept it.

The utility bills were also in our names and are paid up so he doesn't have to worry about that.

Where can you get hold of the Rental Housing act?

http://www.acts.co.za/rental_housing_act_1999.htm
 
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Amida

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That guys for all the help I will send this on to the landlord.
 

LDB

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I'm having the same problem with non other than Just letting. We moved out end of Feb and i'm still waiting for the deposit and interest. They now say the agency has changed ownership. And surprise surprise the cell number they gave us goes to voice mail.... What the hell do i do now....
 

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Approaching the rental tribunal is another good option. They are very much FOR the lessee in this type of situation because so many lessors take advantage.
 

Dolby

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Just Letting the absolute worst ...

Northgate branch was one of the worst branches around. I'm so glad I left them - but now I'm having issues with my new tenants directly. Can't win :/
 

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Don't pay your last months rental, never ever pay it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People will screw you left right and centre because they most of the time have spent your deposit. If you have damaged the house fix it yourself if it comes to as much as the deposit just walk away and pay your last months rent. If they are holding your money back you will need to involve lawyers and honestly it ain't worth it in the end.

Go to the house and throw some rocks through the windows and spray paint the house. Then they can use your despoit to fix and you will feel better about being screwed.
 

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Don't pay your last months rental, never ever pay it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People will screw you left right and centre because they most of the time have spent your deposit. If you have damaged the house fix it yourself if it comes to as much as the deposit just walk away and pay your last months rent. If they are holding your money back you will need to involve lawyers and honestly it ain't worth it in the end.

Go to the house and throw some rocks through the windows and spray paint the house. Then they can use your despoit to fix and you will feel better about being screwed.
Offering more illegal advice :rolleyes:
 

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The deposit is around R6000 so i know it's not a lot of money but it's the principle. The carpets were also not in that bad a condition they were just dirty from wear and tear no stains or anything so I going to tell him I don't accept it.

The utility bills were also in our names and are paid up so he doesn't have to worry about that.

Where can you get hold of the Rental Housing act?
When my property was let out by an agent, they called in a professional carpet cleaning service before the tenants moved in, and it sure didn't need it but the lease agreement states that they will pay for the same when they leave - eliminates any debates later on whether its needed or not.

Best search for the other thread on exactly the same topic, and don't take note of some of the real illegal suggestions posted here.
 
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