Bid to bypass Icasa spurs legal morass

[rpm]

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Telecoms/856.html

The government’s bid to speedily provide affordable broadband services has been sucked into a quagmire of legal complexity which places the whole enterprise in jeopardy and suggests its conceptualisation was bungled from the start.

 

[BobbyMac]

Hahaha. It seems Ivy was pushing for the removal of ICASA's independence for a reason

On a more serious note, if this is factually correct, then what are the chances of Neotel actually making it to the end of the year? This could spell trouble for Neotel - and the consumer.

 

[Telkomhater]

Isn't it amazing that even when the government tries to speed up affordable communication they still end up delaying it further.....................poor Neotel......... After all the incompetency by ICASA and the government, if I was them I would have told them to go **** themselves and stuff their stupid license.

 

[bwana]

In this way the prolonged licensing process of telecommunications regulator, the Independent Communications Authority (Icasa), would be circumvented.

why is their process so prolonged? Ineptitude?

 

[AdLo]

Suprise, suprise more delays. NOT!

Suddenly the government wants to take action after all those years of intentional delays thinking now is the right time for competition, new undersea cables and Infraco but now they are finding all the stumbling blocks that should have been looked at since day one and not D-Day.

 

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[NeoTel] said it required exclusivity, promised by government in a signed memorandum of understanding, to ensure an adequate return on capital.

Translation: 'We here at NeeTel do not believe in NeeTel's ability to compete in an opening up market, so we negotiated with guavamint for the kind of incestuous monopoly that Telkodemonopolies has enjoyed under Ivy'.

Neotel also said the bill should exempt parties from the requirement to submit a merger notification to the competition authorities. This, too, could cause fatal delays to the launch of Neotel.

how many laws is guavamint willing to break to give NeeTel its own little monopoly for the next 4+ years?

In this way the prolonged licensing process of telecommunications regulator, the Independent Communications Authority (Icasa), would be circumvented.

The simplest solutions do not require a new act of parliamentary bungling to override other acts:

• SA needs a strong and independent telecoms regulatory, and !CASA is currently neither of those things, so start strengthening the organisation by napalming the arses of Paris Mashile and the rest of the Grim Poisonous Ivyness Creep's plants at !CASA, and replace them with people that are not incompetent narcoleptics...there are people that can do the job and have the industry skills & knowledge but currently wouldn't touch !CASA due to its lack of independence and abundant incompetence.
• Guavamint should just sell that national fibre backbone to NeeTel as was originally planned - the chances of guavamint's Infraco properly managing a national fibre optic network are slim to none, so rather let NeeTel have full control over the core of its business at the original envisaged price tag.

 

[dominic]

i wonder if there may not be some good in this as it sets a very clear collision course between govt and the big telcos...

popcorn please!

 

[AdLo]

Time for Poison Ivy to start beating her chest. Seems to be the only thing she's good at.
Pity lawyers aren't scared of intimidation otherwise she might have been good for something.

 

[dominic]

Time for Poison Ivy to start beating her chest. Seems to be the only thing she's good at.

 

[ic]

Time for Poison Ivy to start beating her chest. Seems to be the only thing she's good at.
Pity lawyers aren't scared of intimidation otherwise she might have been good for something.

I would love to add that .gif to the napalm Ivy's arse FB group, who owns the copyright on the .gif and can I have permission to use it as described?

 

[AdLo]

I would love to add that .gif to the napalm Ivy's arse FB group, who owns the copyright on the .gif and can I have permission to use it as described?

Telkomisaloser created it. SABC filmed it in parliament.
Regarding copyright you'll have to ask a lawyer.

 

[dominic]

enter the lawyer:

YO TIAL - kindly confirm by written response that you relinquish all copyright and/or other IP claims, including moral rights, in respect of the above-specified .gif; that you are entitled to do so as the author of the above-specified .gif; and that you are content for your creation to be used for the furtherance of good etc etc

 

[Skip]

Here's another article from the M&G on this balls up: State's broadband deal may lead to legal complications. The relevant bits:

Cellphone operators Vodacom, MTN and Cell C have told the committee that government attempts to undermine Icasa as a regulatory body in the establishment of Infraco could land up in the Constitutional Court.

The cellphone operators as well as Telkom and Sentech opposed the exclusive rights given to Neotel.

So basically the microsecond that Neotel starts operating exclusively with Infraco, Neotel along with government is going to find itself smothered in court cases from every single telco in the country.

Is there anything Alec Erwin has touched that hasn't been a complete balls up?

 

[ShaunSA]

It's not like we expected better of guavamint. Everything that they touch turns to muck

 

[Telkomisaloser]

I would love to add that .gif to the napalm Ivy's arse FB group, who owns the copyright on the .gif and can I have permission to use it as described?

Sure thing Put it to good use

enter the lawyer:

YO TIAL - kindly confirm by written response that you relinquish all copyright and/or other IP claims, including moral rights, in respect of the above-specified .gif; that you are entitled to do so as the author of the above-specified .gif; and that you are content for your creation to be used for the furtherance of good etc etc

It can be used for the furtherance of good... that is all

 

[ic]

Sure thing Put it to good use



It can be used for the furtherance of good... that is all

Thanks, I tried but it seems FB isn't all that friendly towards animated .gif files - only displayed the last frame, however I have put a link to your .gif on the wall .

 

[ads]

First Alec Erwin steals the national network that Neotel's shareholders built for it (not with government money, by the way), and then he tries to embroil them in this quagmire. Leave everyone else's assets alone, and get a life, bolthead.

 

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First Alec Erwin steals the national network that Neotel's shareholders built for it (not with government money, by the way), and then he tries to embroil them in this quagmire. Leave everyone else's assets alone, and get a life, bolthead.

 

[bekdik]

Hahaha. On a more serious note, if this is factually correct, then what are the chances of Neotel actually making it to the end of the year? This could spell trouble for Neotel - and the consumer.

Why? When it wants to the government and its cohorts simply ignore legal process. example Telkom, ICASA, local cap ...

 

[kilo39]

Must have taken 'some' building to tie it all together.

First Alec Erwin steals the national network that Neotel's shareholders built for it (not with government money, by the way), and then he tries to embroil them in this quagmire. Leave everyone else's assets alone, and get a life, bolthead.

Gives real meaning to the word 'wingnut.'

couldn't resist