Billionaire Christo Wiese’s advice to people staying in South Africa

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Billionaire Christo Wiese’s advice to people staying in South Africa

South African billionaire businessman Christo Wiese said the country has great potential and offers excellent opportunities to people who stay there.

 

[Sinbad]

This ****ing drivel again

"You have to accept, even if you are the smartest man in the country, you will not be able to become president because of the colour of your skin,” he said.

“If you can accept that you are essentially a second-class citizen in your own country because of your race, it is a great country.”

Wiese said many people became much richer while staying in South Africa, pointing to the country’s tremendous opportunities


Yes getting richer makes being a 2nd class citizen totally worthwhile because money is all there is in life, right?

**** off Wiese. Try living like your average South African and then tell me it's the best country in the world.

 

[thestaggy]

''Man with the financial means to insulate himself against the issues facing the country tells people to smile and hang on.''

Why didn't I think of being rich so I too could live a life of ignorance?

 

[Bernoldus Niemand]

Lol lots of sour grapes in this thread.

 

[Sinbad]

Lol lots of sour grapes in this thread.

 

[Neuk_]

 

[Neuk_]

This ****ing drivel again

"You have to accept, even if you are the smartest man in the country, you will not be able to become president because of the colour of your skin,” he said.

“If you can accept that you are essentially a second-class citizen in your own country because of your race, it is a great country.”

Wiese said many people became much richer while staying in South Africa, pointing to the country’s tremendous opportunities


Yes getting richer makes being a 2nd class citizen totally worthwhile because money is all there is in life, right?

**** off Wiese. Try living like your average South African and then tell me it's the best country in the world.

Braai conversations often turn to these sort of discussions and one of the main things that comes up is how expensive it is to live overseas compared to South Africa. There often weird looks when I ask whomever has made the comment how much tax they pay and tell them to include their private schooling fee's, private medical fee's, private security fee's, private electricity generations costs, water backup system cost, private vehicle fleet costs, etc, etc. And this is before we even enter in to the 'How often do you walk around your neighborhood at night?' safety discussions...

 

[The Darkness]

Maybe Wiesse is rich because of his attitude.

 

[thestaggy]

Maybe Wiesse is rich because of his attitude.

I mean, his parents being a part of Pepkor's founding group certainly afforded him a foot up in the world.

 

[konfab]

Relevant video:

Christo is right though. The people wanting to immigrate because things "are so bad here" are always the people who are going to be the most insulated from the worst of the government retardation.

No-one wanting to immigrate to Ausfailia are people living in a shack.

 

[The Darkness]

I mean, his parents being a part of Pepkor's founding group certainly afforded him a foot up in the world.

Likely his ancestors had the right attitudes too. He could have just as easily squandered his 'leg up'. There are many high net worth people out there who came from nothing - and attitude is key. Look at the glass being half-full. Seek opportunity and don't feed the wolf of negativity and misery. People like to hate on the winners; don't follow the crowd. Good for Christo.

 

[konfab]

I mean, his parents being a part of Pepkor's founding group certainly afforded him a foot up in the world.

He made billions by growing a business. Other people would have likely squandered the opportunity.

By 1979, Pep Stores made its foray into the food retailing business by acquiring Shoprite, a small chain of retail outlets spread across South Africa. “We bought Shoprite for R1 million. Today, it’s worth R100 billion,” Wiese said.

He grew Shoprite from eight supermarkets in Cape Town to a multibillion-dollar business spread across Africa. Numerous acquisitions helped it to achieve rapid growth.

Wiese assumed the position of chairman in 1981, where he owned a 44% share of the company. He made some big business moves in this role, including acquiring the clothing chain Ackermans in 1986.

For example:
The BEE cadres getting millions from contracts that they get on the sole virtue of their skin colour never do anything as positive as what he did.


Ayn Rand has a few very wise words here:

“Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth–the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him. But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will not serve the mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call it evil?

 

[The Darkness]

He made billions by growing a business. Other people would have likely squandered the opportunity.



For example:
The BEE cadres getting millions from contracts that they get on the sole virtue of their skin colour never do anything as positive as what he did.


Ayn Rand has a few very wise words here:

hear hear! Excellent post

 

[WollieVerstege]

Braai conversations often turn to these sort of discussions and one of the main things that comes up is how expensive it is to live overseas compared to South Africa. There often weird looks when I ask whomever has made the comment how much tax they pay and tell them to include their private schooling fee's, private medical fee's, private security fee's, private electricity generations costs, water backup system cost, private vehicle fleet costs, etc, etc. And this is before we even enter in to the 'How often do you walk around your neighborhood at night?' safety discussions...

Adding to this, many Saffers when they talk about it being expensive are comparing living costs in "name brand" cities like Sydney, New York, London or Amsterdam. They don't realise that there are just as many opportunities in smaller, less know cities that are not nearly as expensive to live in.

 

[dualmeister]

Don't drink the water?

 

[Longboi]

He drank the the kool-aid and swallowed the glass jug too.

Christo Wysjoumuis needs to come live in Chatsworth.

 

[thestaggy]

He made billions by growing a business. Other people would have likely squandered the opportunity.



For example:
The BEE cadres getting millions from contracts that they get on the sole virtue of their skin colour never do anything as positive as what he did.


Ayn Rand has a few very wise words here:

The fact is he was afforded an opportunity few will ever have. He was made a director at a company his parents helped start. Let us not pretend nepotism wasn't a factor here.

He has clearly been good at what he does but you cannot deny that he was given a huge advantage.

 

[Longboi]

The fact is he was afforded an opportunity few will ever have. He was made a director at a company his parents helped start. Let us not pretend nepotism wasn't a factor here.

He has clearly been good at what he does but you cannot deny that he was given a huge advantage.

Lots of us here would have done better than him if we had those advantages.

 

[konfab]

Braai conversations often turn to these sort of discussions and one of the main things that comes up is how expensive it is to live overseas compared to South Africa. There often weird looks when I ask whomever has made the comment how much tax they pay and tell them to include their private schooling fee's, private medical fee's, private security fee's, private electricity generations costs, water backup system cost, private vehicle fleet costs, etc, etc. And this is before we even enter in to the 'How often do you walk around your neighborhood at night?' safety discussions...

Private healthcare in SA is ridiculously good value.

What is the waiting time for a hip replacement in Britbongistan?

For those pathways where the patient was waiting to start treatment at the end ofFebruary 2024, the median waiting time was 14.8 weeks. The 92nd percentile waitingtime was 44.6 weeks2.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statisti...-RTT-SPN-Publication-PDF-only-445KB-08666.pdf

My elderly neighbour on a local government pension got hip surgery done in 2 days. Had to pay in about R8k because he didn't have gap cover.

That is insane value for money all things considered.

Or better yet in Cankukistan:

Between October 2020 and September 2021, patients receiving hip and knee replacements continued to experience longer wait times, while cataract surgery wait times returned to pre-pandemic levels in most provinces. During this period, volumes for these scheduled surgeries fluctuated — at times, they rebounded to pre-pandemic levels or slightly higher. Wait times for all 3 of these procedures improved compared with the first 6 months of the pandemic (April to September 2020), during which time only half of patients were treated within recommended time frames and volumes were down by over 40%.

• For joint replacements, about 62% of patients across Canada were treated within the recommended time frame (182 days) between October 2020 and September 2021, compared with 71% in the pre-pandemic period. A lower or similar proportion of patients receiving care within benchmark was noted in all provinces except Prince Edward Island, where wait times improved for knee replacement.
• For cataract surgery, 66% of patients across Canada were treated within the recommended time frame (112 days) between October 2020 and September 2021, compared with 70% in the pre-pandemic period. For 7 of 10 provinces, the wait times were shorter or similar to those in the pre-pandemic period; however, the proportion of patients in Ontario, Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador who were treated within benchmark remained 6% to 10% lower than in the pre-pandemic period.

In comparison with the evil and oppressed South Africa, my mom got her whole cataract surgery done within 2 weeks of getting it spotted by the optometrist, booking a specialist and having the surgery , and most of that was actually healing time, not waiting time. And my insurance with gap cover, covered almost everything other than an appointment with the specialist, which left me about R700 out of pocket. The horror.

I define middle class in SA as being rich enough to have a decent hospital plan and gap cover. If you have that, you have a pretty decent quality of life in a lot of ways that the Europoors and Amerilards don't.

 

[konfab]

The fact is he was afforded an opportunity few will ever have. He was made a director at a company his parents helped start. Let us not pretend nepotism wasn't a factor here.

He has clearly been good at what he does but you cannot deny that he was given a huge advantage.

So? It doesn't diminish his achievements.

Society is overwhelmingly better for it. Sixty60 is an absolute godsend for me.