Billionare Johann Rupert slammed by MKMVA

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South African billionaire Johann Rupert was the main focus of a vitriolic onslaught from the uMkhonto weSizwe Military Veterans Association (MKMVA) at Luthuli House on Wednesday.

In a Netwerk24 report, MKMVA came out guns blazing against Rupert who recently implored President Jacob Zuma to step aside and go back to his ANC branch for the sake of the future of South Africa's children.

"The patience of our people towards white monopoly capital whose utterance [sic], as displayed by Rupert, is thinning," MKMVA chairperson Kebby Maphatsoe said.

Maphatsoe said Rupert's "arrogance" sent out a message that white monopoly capital was not prepared to change.

He said Rupert had simply ignored the reality of his space as a rich man in which the majority were poor.

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"Today South Africa is faced with serious challenges of a shrinking economy... we would have expected him to be outspoken about white monopoly capital... But for him and those rich like him, we only experience a sort of investment holiday," he said.

Media reports last week suggested Rupert had flown from London to persuade Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa and other powerful business leaders to oppose the appointment of Des Van Rooyen as finance minister.

Van Rooyen was appointed by Zuma after he fired Nhlanhla Nene in December. Zuma removed Van Rooyen from the post a few days later, replacing him with Pravin Gordhan.

Van Rooyen denied Rupert had any influence on his appointment. He said only the ANC was responsible for his redeployment.

"We should know by now that the ANC does have structures that deal with issues of deployment... In my situation the development wasn’t necessarily unique. It was subjected to due process of the ANC. As a result changes were made...," Van Rooyen told journalists.

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*sigh* have they never heard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?!?

they both want Zuma gone, wtf is the point of attacking Rupert? (aside from playing to the masses)
 

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*sigh* have they never heard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?!?

they both want Zuma gone, wtf is the point of attacking Rupert? (aside from playing to the masses)

Who is "both"? The MK heads want Zuma to remain in place. Only a few high ranking MK generals wrote an anonymous letter to remove Zuma.
 

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Who is "both"? The MK heads want Zuma to remain in place. Only a few high ranking MK generals wrote an anonymous letter to remove Zuma.

The letter was signed, hardly "anonymous", and according to the articles it was signed by the most valued MK vets, as you say, high ranking people. Given it was a military organization it is fair to say the word of the highest ranked people is the word of the entire organization. Military groups are not democratic.

I get your point that it isn't the entirety of MK that wants Zuma gone and besides that it doesn't exist anymore and doesn't count for much anyway. But in the eyes of ANC members who place a high value on the true fighters of "the struggle" the letter is aligned with the desire of Rupert to see Zuma gone.

Kebby Maphatsoe is a lightweight compared to the letter's signees.
 

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The letter was signed, hardly "anonymous", and according to the articles it was signed by the most valued MK vets, as you say, high ranking people. Given it was a military organization it is fair to say the word of the highest ranked people is the word of the entire organization. Military groups are not democratic.

I get your point that it isn't the entirety of MK that wants Zuma gone and besides that it doesn't exist anymore and doesn't count for much anyway. But in the eyes of ANC members who place a high value on the true fighters of "the struggle" the letter is aligned with the desire of Rupert to see Zuma gone.

Kebby Maphatsoe is a lightweight compared to the letter's signees.

I don't see any signee !

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807632-MK-generals-veterans-call-for-Zuma-to-step-down
https://martinplaut.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/south-africa-former-mk-leaders-demand-zuma-goes/
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...all-for-zuma-to-step-down-20160323?isapp=true

I've checked close to 10 sources and can't find one mentioning a name.

The high ranking MK can have various opinions as well and you can't speculate on how many or which percentage is behind this specific letter.

It's possible that the clan against Maphatsoe and Zuma is a majority of the MK, also possible that the majority is behind Zuma (as they respond to the ANC and follow the ANC policies as the good soldiers they are as you mention).

Nothing can be concluded with the statements available.
 

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I don't see any signee !

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807632-MK-generals-veterans-call-for-Zuma-to-step-down
https://martinplaut.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/south-africa-former-mk-leaders-demand-zuma-goes/
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...all-for-zuma-to-step-down-20160323?isapp=true

I've checked close to 10 sources and can't find one mentioning a name.

The high ranking MK can have various opinions as well and you can't speculate on how many or which percentage is behind this specific letter.

It's possible that the clan against Maphatsoe and Zuma is a majority of the MK, also possible that the majority is behind Zuma (as they respond to the ANC and follow the ANC policies as the good soldiers they are as you mention).

Nothing can be concluded with the statements available.

The letter contains the words "We, the undersigned, are", it stands to reason that there would be signatures after such a remark. As for specific names, Daily Maverick specifically mentions General Siphiwe Nyanda as well as Moe Shaik, Gibson Njenje, Mavuso Msimang, Snuki Zikalala and Jabu Moleketi here: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2016-03-24-state-capture-mk-veterans-open-a-new-front-against-zuma/

One can only imagine they got that from viewing the full letter?
 

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I don't see any signee !

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807632-MK-generals-veterans-call-for-Zuma-to-step-down
https://martinplaut.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/south-africa-former-mk-leaders-demand-zuma-goes/
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...all-for-zuma-to-step-down-20160323?isapp=true

I've checked close to 10 sources and can't find one mentioning a name.

The high ranking MK can have various opinions as well and you can't speculate on how many or which percentage is behind this specific letter.

It's possible that the clan against Maphatsoe and Zuma is a majority of the MK, also possible that the majority is behind Zuma (as they respond to the ANC and follow the ANC policies as the good soldiers they are as you mention).

Nothing can be concluded with the statements available.

The Final Letter with all the signatories.
 

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*sigh* have they never heard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?!?

they both want Zuma gone, wtf is the point of attacking Rupert? (aside from playing to the masses)

Rupert is white, no point in attacking him, its just uMkhonto weSizwe looking for attention. (as we called them, die Konte wil sweets he)
But then even if a black businessman with the same stature of Rupert had done the same, he'd get the treatment. Zuma is paying all who supported him a fat salary, and they won't go against him, we all know that.
 

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He said Rupert had simply ignored the reality of his space as a rich man in which the majority were poor.

Maybe the poor majority should stop ignoring the reality of corrupt Zuma's space where he singlehandedly dropped the rand by about R500bil & made every single South African poorer just so he & the Guptas can steal more.

In fact..

Today South Africa is faced with serious challenges of a shrinking economy...

Exactly.. a direct result of the ZuptANC & not white minority capital or the Ruperts, so stop your racism mkay.
 

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Typical ANC, attacking the job creators. The man has worked hard to get to where he is and has created a shyte load of jobs along the way. FK off you irrelevant militants :mad:
 

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Billionaire saying squat vs moaning ex terrorists ...... difference?

One lot are getting excited and wasting time and energy ..... the other couldnt give a rats rectum,
 

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What is even scarier is that MKMVA prefer migrants over white South Africans. They are not even African (or classify as previously disadvantaged in terms of BBBEE) and they are welcomed more than whites are. This sentiment is probably found across most of SA's black population. This is why I believe if you are white and have money, you should leave as soon as you can. There will be no racial harmony or healing until blood has been shed. The disenfranchised want their pound of flesh.

The FeesMustFall movement has been very telling. They want what was promised to them, and will do whatever it takes to get it. Soon countless BA and BCOM students will be unleashed into a jobless world with their degrees. They will feel even more entitled as they "worked for their jobs, so why don't they have any?"

ANC leaders who spoke out against Guptas backed by white capitalists - MKMVA
 
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