BitTorrent blues on the 9gb package

[DaveBuchanan1337]

BitTorrent issues on the 9gb package

Anyone else having problems with torrents (especially on the 9gb "p2p" account)? I rarely connect to any peers, and this problem has persisted for a week now. At the beginning of the month, I could download 4GB in 12 Hours.

I ain't capped, by the way. I still have 2.4 gigabytes remaining.

thanks.

 

[slimothy]

ye same here, you gotta let them connect to you

 

[DaveBuchanan1337]

how long does that take for you on a reasonably active torrent (near its half-life)?

 

[bb_matt]

A reasonably active torrent should see decent downloads after a few minutes of connecting. It all depends how new it is and how many complete versions there are available.

As for torrents in general ?

It depends on its popularity mainly.

For instance, the recent ie7beta1 I was downloading at 30k - I think there were 40 seeds for the torrent I downloaded and plenty of peers - a few thousand.

Bittorrent is ideal for popular files, but the more obscure/old the file is, the less likely you are to find a torrent or to find one with enough seeds for a fast download. Peers also help. For instance, right now I have a torrent with 9peers and 3seeds averaging 7k and another with just 1 seed at 1k

Your best bet is to seek out torrents with more seeds and to not mess around with the share ratio. Leave it at default. The slower you allow the upload, the slower the download. With older/less popular torrents, you'll usually end up uploading more than you download.

 

[DaveBuchanan1337]

yeah - the tracker reports that my torrent has 100 seeders and 50 leechers - which IMO is an excellent ratio. The issue is, my client (btdownloadcurses.py on fedora 4) reports seeing no more than 2 seeders and 2 leechers.

I know that bt takes a while to find peers, but damn, I started 6 hours ago!

 

[bb_matt]

I haven't done any torrent downloading with linux - I dislike all the meddling around stop and starting and haven't bothered to look for a decent GUI client, so I do all my torrent stuff in windows.

Check the settings - it may be that by default it's only allowing you to have that many connections.

On windows, I find Bittornado to be the most simple and effective front end to the default bittorrent, allowing just enough control and info with a very light footprint - everyone has their favourite, I've settled on Bittornado.

I assume that you have the correct your ports open ?

At the moment, I'm trying an experiment and have opened up every damn port from 1000 to 65535 - as I've got no "critical" services running on any of those ports, I've found it a damn side easier than meddling around with specific ports for every p2p application.

But as far as I remember, bittorrent defaults to the range between 6881 to 6999.

 

[DaveBuchanan1337]

Yeah, bittornado is my favourite windows client - I love the control, the stats, and the 'experimental' title.

I have port forwarding on my ipcop router from 6881-6884 forwarding to my local ip - this config hasn't changed since it was working beautifully.

I'm gonna go try the fedora linux tracker now, see how well that works for me.

 

[slimothy]

no dave, you see iburst and torrent are totally different so you cant go on what a normal torrent should take, because it takes ussually 2 updates to the tracker (1 - 30 minutes depending on piece + swarm size) before speeds pick up (they were like that before with iburst and are like that now with adsl) but when you update the tracker or let it update normally, you are getting IPs you want to connect to.... that isn't really going to help for as long as the shaper is all out of whack like it is. So you need to make yourself available as a good peer so your IP is sent to other users when they get Ips from the tracker... so they can initiate the connection.

A good way to get a good peer status is limit your download speed to 1Kb/s and then max your upload speed, you will start to be seen as a good peer around the second piece you upload and then you can limit your upload and crank up the download speed and you will be considered a good peer for a while longer. You need to fish basically, you use upload as bait once people try connect to you and the tracker considers you a good peer you reel the upload bait in and enjoy the rewards

 

[Jongi]

Hehehehehe slim

 

[myles]

P2P after cap kicks in on 9GB

Can one still P2P (torrent) download after the 9gb cap kicks in?
Does one get the same speeds like on the 3gb package after the cap - like with web based downloads?

 

[Jongi]

Why is the 9GB package considered as the P2P package?

 

[slimothy]

myles yes pretty much, they dont throttle so much as limit connections you can have with peers so you can go over 64kbit, but not by much and you dont get full speed

jongi because it is not (normally and ideally) packet shaped like the 3GB package and thereforthey are not trying to limit your p2p speeds/activity

 

[Jongi]

Oh that's interesting