Black people being racist to black people wtf?

[Saltex]

So tonight I went out with some friends and one of them brought a black friend with from Zim, very well spoken and well educated, so we all chatting and there is black South Africans sitting behind us, they heard the zim guy speaking English, and they start chirping him about why is he speaking English and that this is South Africa he must speak Zulu or whatever, and they say this all in front of us 4 white guys, and I was pretty stunned by what I had just heard, but I just kept quiet and didn't even bother because I know if I had opened my mouth It would a just gone one way, and by that, I meant I would a been labeled as a racist. I pretty much lost all faith in the younger generation of black people after hearing that, and just felt there really isn't much hope in curing this racism thing, it will always be there and if anything I think it is just getting worse, yes not everyone is like this, but this is why it will always just be a never ending circle black and white people, it's really sad.

Main point though was I couldn't believe how they were chirping him in a way as if he was siding with the white people and that he should be hanging out with black people instead, yes this may not be classified as racism, but that's just how I saw it, they saw him as white because he was hanging out with white people.

 

[winner]

I find people who are more educated to be less racist. I am not saying educated racists do not exist but they tend to be less. Or maybe they are just good at hiding it.

 

[Redeemed]

Wouldn't you call that xenophopia rather than racism? And why would you lose all faith in the young black generation just because of the comments of a few prejudiced and possibly ignorant individuals? Do you you think it would be logical to lose all hope for the young white generation because of the Waterkloof Four? Surely not. There's also prejudice from some Englishmen aimed at Afrikaners and vice a versa, and other white groups too. It is not inconceivable that the same exits amongst black people.

 

[madtza]

Classic case of being too black for the whites kids and too white for the black...story of my life. Happens more often than you think and has been since whenever.

 

[Pho3nix]

Classic case of being too black for the whites kids and too white for the black...story of my life. Happens more often than you think and has been since whenever.

^This.
Some black people can't take the fact that your educated and speak English proficiently and label you one way. Coconut. As to @winner's statement, I don't think educated black people hide it better although some might but rather they see past someones race; and understand it's personality traits that make someone a @sshole not their race.

Hope I made sense, haven't slept in a bit

 

[xrapidx]

^^

*you are educated

 

[Zenbaas]

I have quite a few good Zim and Kenyan friends and having chatted with them it seems to come up a lot. Grates them to no end but I guess they have learned to move along or simply provide a quick FO answer.

 

[azbob]

Makwerekwere

 

[Mercury12]

Isnt this called Xenophobia?

 

[ToxicBunny]

I've had that at a pub once before...

As a group we all turned around and told the guys to FO... if they have an issue with it they can leave and find a pub where people don't speak English or Afrikaans.

They shut up very quickly actually, I think they expected us to all just meekly shut up and accept it.

Oddly enough, 2 or 3 hours later after one or two of them had left the other guys joined our group, apologised and we ended up having a jol together.

 

[deweyzeph]

By definition you cannot be racist to someone who is the same race as you. A black person cannot be racist to another black person, that doesn't make any linguistic sense.

 

[ToxicBunny]

By definition you cannot be racist to someone who is the same race as you. A black person cannot be racist to another black person, that doesn't make any linguistic sense.

Depends on your definition of race... but I do agree with you... it would be more accurate to call it Xenophobia

 

[Randux]

Makwerekwere

amaZai Zai is the term

 

[deweyzeph]

Depends on your definition of race... but I do agree with you... it would be more accurate to call it Xenophobia

I'm not sure it's even that. The fact that the guy was from Zim doesn't really seem to be the issue here. From the OP's post it sounds as if those other dudes would have given him a hard time regardless of whether he was from Zim or from South Africa. They seem to have taken issue with the fact that he was a well-spoken black person socialising with white people, and they were ignorant morons.

 

[Sinbad]

It's blatant racism. Not directly at your friend, but at you via him. They don't have the courage to say **** off whitey to your face so they pick on the lone black dude for hanging out with you.

 

[Pho3nix]

I'm not sure it's even that. The fact that the guy was from Zim doesn't really seem to be the issue here. From the OP's post it sounds as if those other dudes would have given him a hard time regardless of whether he was from Zim or from South Africa. They seem to have taken issue with the fact that he was a well-spoken black person socialising with white people, and they were ignorant morons.

Thats also what I thought it was from the OP. Wouldn't call it racism per se though but it's definitely not xenophobia.

 

[Beachless]

Its not racism or xenophobia its class separation.

If you look at the term coconut it does not have any bad attributes yet it is seen as an insult.
It is simply those who are unable or unwilling to better themselves trying to hold back those who can and want to.

 

[Saltex]

Thats also what I thought it was from the OP. Wouldn't call it racism per se though but it's definitely not xenophobia.

Jip my point was more about him socialising with white people, it couldn't have been xeno becuase they weren't exactly chirping him about him taking here jobs, but on a different subject, is it just me or do you guys find the black people around Africa to be way better than South African black people? I don't think i've ever encountered a black person from another country in Africa with race issue with a white person and vice versa, everytime i've met someone from Malawi or where ever they seem to have the utmost respect for people over here, the only people I can say that aren't really friendly are the students I have met from the congo.

 

[RiaX]

Isnt this called Xenophobia?

yup

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

Its xenophobia and not limited to any race or culture. Its actually very common amongst white people who often criticise Europeans for not fitting in 100% with the local culture and language.