Born-again Christians come out on top in survey of adultery website users

[ShaunSA]

http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyl...ut-on-top-in-survey-of-adultery-website-users

Nothing we didn't know already

/eyes out the forum happy-clappers

 

[Space_Chief]

http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyl...ut-on-top-in-survey-of-adultery-website-users

Nothing we didn't know already

/eyes out the forum happy-clappers

"People who have faith often use it as an outlet for forgiveness" Dr. Eric Anderson, a sociologist at the University of Winchester in England, told the Huffington Post "so they're more likely to cheat and less likely to feel guilty."

I have to ask what it means to feel guilty about adultery, because it's an irrational response. If we're programmed to be moved by our selfish genes, feelings of guilt are irrelevant and are meaningless. What's required is spread of genes to as many females as possible with as many offspring as possible.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I think the biggest reason why adultery is so high among conservative/religious folks is simply because sex/intimacy/whatever seems to be so difficult for them to communicate to each other about without those feelings of guilt that they've been conditioned their entire lives to feel.

And what's the biggest problem with any relationship? That's right folks: communication (or, rather, the lack thereof).

 

[Thor]

First the priests and little boys now this... Oh my, Jesus is not gonna be happy about this

 

[Unhappy438]

Guilt isn't irrelevant, the feeling could prevent someone from repeating the act.

 

[Nick333]

I think the biggest reason why adultery is so high among conservative/religious folks is simply because sex/intimacy/whatever seems to be so difficult for them to communicate to each other about without those feelings of guilt that they've been conditioned their entire lives to feel.

And what's the biggest problem with any relationship? That's right folks: communication (or, rather, the lack thereof).

You've got to figure if God exists he created sex to make us happy. When you really give it some thought, sex is pretty harmless for fairly educated people. I mean honestly. Aids and teen age pregnancy is largely not a middle class problem. When you look at the instances where sex of any sort becomes problematic it's where the religious folks have made it an issue. Aids? Gay men reacting to fccking centuries of oppression and going bit a nuts in the 70's and 80's. Cue the 90's and onwards where it's ok to be gay and Aids is no longer a first world problem. Teen age pregnancy? Education problem. Talk to the Catholics. Prostitution and infidelity? Talk to the Protestants and there half a$$ed attitude to sex. "It's ok but, we get embarrassed talking about it".

The truth is the less fccked up you are about sex the less fccked up sex is for you. It's as simple as that.

 

[Nick333]

Guilt isn't irrelevant, the feeling could prevent someone from repeating the act.

Guilt is a control mechanism for children. Rational people can use reason to figure out right from wrong.

 

[wolverine_dcp]

http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyl...ut-on-top-in-survey-of-adultery-website-users

Nothing we didn't know already

/eyes out the forum happy-clappers

The times such a reliable source☺

 

[Nick333]

The times such a reliable source☺

Now there's a genetic fallacy if I ever saw one.

 

[Lycanthrope]

You've got to figure if God exists he created sex to make us happy. When you really give it some thought, sex is pretty harmless for fairly educated people. I mean honestly. Aids and teen age pregnancy is largely not a middle class problem. When you look at the instances where sex of any sort becomes problematic it's where the religious folks have made it an issue. Aids? Gay men reacting to fccking centuries of oppression and going bit a nuts in the 70's and 80's. Cue the 90's and onwards where it's ok to be gay and Aids is no longer a first world problem. Teen age pregnancy? Education problem. Talk to the Catholics. Prostitution and infidelity? Talk to the Protestants and there half a$$ed attitude to sex. "It's ok but, we get embarrassed talking about it".

The truth is the less fccked up you are about sex the less fccked up sex is for you. It's as simple as that.

You're completely correct.

 

[Thor]

You've got to figure if God exists he created sex to make us happy. When you really give it some thought, sex is pretty harmless for fairly educated people. I mean honestly. Aids and teen age pregnancy is largely not a middle class problem. When you look at the instances where sex of any sort becomes problematic it's where the religious folks have made it an issue. Aids? Gay men reacting to fccking centuries of oppression and going bit a nuts in the 70's and 80's. Cue the 90's and onwards where it's ok to be gay and Aids is no longer a first world problem. Teen age pregnancy? Education problem. Talk to the Catholics. Prostitution and infidelity? Talk to the Protestants and there half a$$ed attitude to sex. "It's ok but, we get embarrassed talking about it".

The truth is the less fccked up you are about sex the less fccked up sex is for you. It's as simple as that.

Well fricken put. +1

 

[Unhappy438]

Guilt is a control mechanism for children. Rational people can use reason to figure out right from wrong.

Using it on children would also explain why guilt arises in adults. However its not about figuring out right from wrong. Im sure we have all done something irrational that we've felt guilty about afterwards, reason isn't always possible even for us reasonable folk . (Note im not only referring to adultery here.)

 

[wolverine_dcp]

Now there's a genetic fallacy if I ever saw one.

really

 

[Nick333]

Using it on children would also explain why guilt arises in adults. However its not about figuring out right from wrong. Im sure we have all done something irrational that we've felt guilty about afterwards, reason isn't always possible even for us reasonable folk . (Note im not only referring to adultery here.)

Guilt serves a purpose for people who can't reason i.e. children and pets. Children, though, reach an age where they can reason, which is probably a good time to sit them down and be a man(or woman as the case may be) and have a fecking grown up talk with them. Something along the lines of: "do what you like after you've considered how it will affect other's" would probably do the trick.

 

[Unhappy438]

Guilt serves a purpose for people who can't reason i.e. children and pets. Children, though, reach an age where they can reason, which is probably a good time to sit them down and be a man(or woman as the case may be) and have a fecking grown up talk with them. Something along the lines of: "do what you like after you've considered how it will affect other's" would probably do the trick.

Yup people who cant reason or situations where reason is over come by other emotions such as anger or lust, that's not even contemplating things like drugs and alcohol. If either reason or guilt is used to overcome certain situations, then the end outcome is identical. In which case my original point is still valid. Guilt isn't irrelevant

 

[kianm]

I have to ask what it means to feel guilty about adultery, because it's an irrational response. If we're programmed to be moved by our selfish genes, feelings of guilt are irrelevant and are meaningless. What's required is spread of genes to as many females as possible with as many offspring as possible.

Zooma can testify to this

 

[CrazYmonkeY159]

study on pornhubs gay porn findings in USA

Reminds me of this article, pornhub users in the bible belt are more likely to watch gay porn than others in the USA according to pornhub themselves

 

[Space_Chief]

I think the biggest reason why adultery is so high among conservative/religious folks is simply because sex/intimacy/whatever seems to be so difficult for them to communicate to each other about without those feelings of guilt that they've been conditioned their entire lives to feel.

And what's the biggest problem with any relationship? That's right folks: communication (or, rather, the lack thereof).

I disagree. As somewhat religious although not as strict as I should be and as someone who knows many similar such people it's not the case at all. Intimacy can be communicated very well, as can sex.

Back to original linke: maybe the non-religious folks don't need sites to find such fsck buddies. They can just find them anywhere - like in college dorms or in night clubs or during business trips or in their regular circles or friends or sex networks.

Besides self identified "religion X" need not mean = regularly attends church and pays much attention or concerns to such.

 

[Space_Chief]

study on pornhubs gay porn findings in USA

Reminds me of this article, pornhub users in the bible belt are more likely to watch gay porn than others in the USA according to pornhub themselves

Maybe the others can engage in actual gay sex, so looking for the porn is irrelevant?

 

[Space_Chief]

Guilt is a control mechanism for children. Rational people can use reason to figure out right from wrong.

Of course one can know right from wrong, rationally but not under all philosophical systems. Not under materialist atheism as that can only be right and wrong in terms of what makes us "feel" is bad but it's not a rational X is bad because ..... Guilt is a feeling of knowing one has committed a wrongful act though. It can compel us to act on our doing wrong rather than acknowledging it and then ignoring it.