BREAKING | Jacob Zuma medical parole unlawful, he should go back to jail

ToxicBunny

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Looks like samaritan hearts are bleeding due to blood cancer affected Clive. I wonder if same will happen if Zuma has blood cancer.

In all honesty, as much as it would drive me up the wall and make me froth at the mouth, if Zuma was legitimately terminally ill then he would qualify for medical parole.
 

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Can you post a source about him being denied medical parole because Hani family doesn't allow it?


On July 9, 2014, his application for placement on medical parole was considered by the Medical Parole Advisory Board.

The Board then made a recommendation that Masutha should place the offender on medical parole.

“I have now considered the offender’s application. In making my decision, I took into account the applicable legislation, recommendations made by the Board as well as the submission made by Mrs Hani and the SACP,” Masutha said.

“In the circumstances, the Board’s recommendation to place the offender on medical parole is not approved. This decision will be communicated to his (Derby-Lewis’s) legal representative as required by the court order.”

Join the dots.
 

ToxicBunny

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I am not in any way suggesting that he wasn't qualifying for medical parole, I was just interested in that particular point I raised.

I think there could be some confusion between Derby Lewis and Walusz.

I also do agree that there is confuzzlement between the two... :)
 

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I was proving your point dumbass!

Which part of "Note the reasons for denial are all medical:" did you not read?
That's a very confusing way of going about proving my point, but noted.
 

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Oh? So we are joining the dots now? That's a massive departure from the confident claim you made


36] It is needless to state that the representations by the third and fourth respondents have been considered to form a critical component of the hearing. That much is evident not only from the history of applicant's incarceration but also from the court orders referred to above. A fortiori the significance and impact of those representations would even be more significant to the interests more particularly of the applicant, the third and the fourth respondents. That much would be obvious even to the third and fourth respondents yet for some unknown reason the applicant was not served with their representations.

[37] Upon reading the reasons given by the first respondent for his decision, more particularly with reference to this issue of "remorse", it becomes patently clear that he took the third and fourth respondents' representations into account in reaching his decision. This was done without him being in possession of the applicant's response thereto.


The 'fourth respondent' is Mrs Limpho Hani.
 

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Zuma has AIDS and a couple of other STDS because the could never keep his dick in his pants.

That is why he is hell bent on not having his medical condition made known.
 
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Dali is setting up the ultimate cadre escape incarceration card,


"It should be noted that according to SAMS -- that's the military people -- the condition of Mr Zuma required that he be under care of a medic on a 24-hour basis, a situation which was not possible at the facility as the correctional centre can only accommodate inmates overnight," said Advocate Dali Mpofu, Zuma's legal representative.

"Therefore the medic could not be allowed to spend 24 hours with Mr Zuma as the medic could not be accommodated in the correctional facility."

anyone with SAMS 'assistance' or who are under their supervision, since SAMS are unreachable and seemingly protected against inquests or summons since they protest against it every time with success, who are determined to be ill will basically not get imprisoned in a correctional centre.

The SCA ruling would need to be concise on all matters argued by Zuma and correctional services.
 

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One thing which may be of some consolation to us - he got a hefty lawyery bill to pay.

They will most probably solicit donations from his supporters... and scammers will join the fray.

Not my circus, not my monkeys, but it will be interesting to watch.
 

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One thing which may be of some consolation to us - he got a hefty lawyery bill to pay.

They will most probably solicit donations from his supporters... and scammers will join the fray.

Not my circus, not my monkeys, but it will be interesting to watch.
The sock business must be doing well, that was my thoughts. Until I started doing calculations and realized South Africa is not buried in socks ...
 

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One thing which may be of some consolation to us - he got a hefty lawyery bill to pay.

They will most probably solicit donations from his supporters... and scammers will join the fray.

Not my circus, not my monkeys, but it will be interesting to watch.

Or just threaten the lawyer to move on.
 

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Clive Derby-Lewis was repeatedly denied medical parole, even though the medical parole board recommended medical parole.

This was due to the family of Hani ' not allowing it'.

Nowhere is it a requirement to require the victim's family permission.

Derby-Lewis had end stage lung cancer.
He had a lot more than that, as listed in his 2011 parole application, he had prostate cancer, hypertension, skin cancer and a gangrenous spot in his leg. A person who is genuinely ill and dying has no qualms about revealing the nature of his illnesses.
 

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Even though medical parole had been denied, he was released on parole

Here is the judgment: http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPPHC/2015/661.html

Note the reasons for denial are all medical:

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[28] The reasoning for the refusal to place the applicant on medical parole by the first respondent is briefly as follows:

28.1. In its recommendation, the Board states that Mr Derby-Lewis is suffering from stage lllB lung cancer and this serves largely as a basis upon which it recommends his placement on medical parole. This finding and recommendation appears to be oblivious of the fact that in terms of the Act, read with relevant Regulations, it is an inmate with malignant cancer stage IV with metastasis being inoperable or with both radiotherapy and chemotherapy failure that qualifies for placement on medical parole. It is therefore inconceivable how the Board came to its conclusion.

28.2. The applicant was found by the first respondent not to have been rendered physically incapacitated so as to severely limit his daily activity or self-care.

28.3. There were no indications to whether the offender had "showed any remorse for the crimes committed."

28.4. The first respondent has since disavowed reference to the use of pseudonyms used at the hospital by applicant and I therefore make no reference to that issue.
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Very interesting that a dying cancer patient does not qualify for medical parole but Zuma suffering from mystery bullshit disease does qualify.

Everyone is equal hey...


There is nothing to suggest that Mr Derby-Lewis’s condition is such that he is rendered physically incapacitated… so as to severely limit daily activity.” -- justice minister Michael Masutha
Equality is indeed amazing, especially where some are more equal than others.

 
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