Breonna Taylor: Lawsuit after US health worker shot dead by police

[ForceFate]

This is incorrect, as far as I can tell. Her name was on the warrant but not as a suspect. Her boyfriend's name was not on the warrant at all.

True. They suspected her ex was using the address to mail packages through the post office.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I'm a little confused. They rock up, given at the wrong address, then the person in the apartment shoots at them and wounds an officer. They shoot back. And now the police is getting the stick after one of theirs was wounded?
This case isn't even close to clear cut. I see more of a problem with the warrant than with the conduct of the officers. For all that it was tragic that the individual was shot, she also fired on them. Come on!

I mean put yourself in their position for a bit. They followed up on a warrant to forcefully enter and apprehend. They are just people like you and me doing a job. Had one of them even requested the warrant? Or were they just following orders? Then somebody shoots at them from within the apartment they understood to be a drug smuggling den, injuring one of them.

Who here thinks that their training doesn't require them to fire back?

In any case. The circumstances around the warrant needs to be investigated first and foremost. Way before this becomes an issue of hate crime. Most of the blame for this lies with whoever screwed that warrant up. But... Some of the blame lies with whichever trigger happy fool proceeded to shoot at the damned cops! You don't do that... You also don't shoot willy nilly blind without at least knowing who you're shooting at. Right here in Sunny SA Oscar Pistolius got hard time for very much the same thing.

A lot of the things you're saying here are just incorrect. She didn't shoot at them, they didn't even claim it was a "drug smuggling den", they claimed an ex-bf of her was sending suspicious packages to the address, which turned out to just be clothes. He didn't even live there, and was already in custody.

They lied on the warrant, and then lied again on the incident report immediately after the shooting. They didn't wear body cameras, they told the ambulance to leave before going in, they didn't announce themselves (they dispute this, but 11 witnesses in the same apartment building said they heard nothing (it was the middle of the night, so it was quiet), while 1 witness said he maybe heard 'something', after saying in two separate interviews he also heard nothing).

Another question is why execute the warrant in the middle of the night without proper protocols in place?

Read this.

 

[Speedster]

A lot of the things you're saying here are just incorrect. She didn't shoot at them, they didn't even claim it was a "drug smuggling den", they claimed an ex-bf of her was sending suspicious packages to the address, which turned out to just be clothes. He didn't even live there, and was already in custody.

They lied on the warrant, and then lied again on the incident report immediately after the shooting. They didn't wear body cameras, they told the ambulance to leave before going in, they didn't announce themselves (they dispute this, but 11 witnesses in the same apartment building said they heard nothing (it was the middle of the night, so it was quiet), while 1 witness said he maybe heard 'something', after saying in two separate interviews he also heard nothing).

Another question is why execute the warrant in the middle of the night without proper protocols in place?

Read this.

I think you might need to revise your alternative facts to line up better with the truth of what actually happened.

 

[ForceFate]

I think you might need to revise your alternative facts to line up better with the truth of what actually happened.

Timeline: Inside the investigation of Breonna Taylor's killing and its aftermath

Here's how the investigation into the death of Breonna Taylor has unfolded after she was killed in her home by Louisville, Kentucky, police.

abcnews.go.com

 

[C4Cat]

I think you might need to revise your alternative facts to line up better with the truth of what actually happened.

How do you know the truth of what actually happened? At least OD provides sources for his information

 

[Speedster]

How do you know the truth of what actually happened? At least OD provides sources for his information

Police executed a search warrant. Someone within the property fired on, and wounded, a police officer. Police returned fire and the lady was tragically hit in the process.

 

[Cray]

You're welcome to go fact check them against the leaked police reports and CNN.

Breonna Taylor Summary-Redacted1

Exclusive: TatumReport.comBreonna Taylor3003 Springfield Drive #4Louisville, KY 40214(Accurint – April 2016 to Present)DOB:

www.yumpu.com

Anyway the DA, who has access to more information, agreed with this so it proves what was said.

If you think the decision to prosecute police in the US is only dictated by facts and evidence I have a bridge to sell you...

Also, the decision in this case wasn't made by the DA, it was made by a Grand Jury.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54285876

Breonna Taylor: Family lawyer slams 'devilish' grand jury outcome

Ms Taylor's family had called for the arrest of all three officers, but the grand jury - a panel drawn from members of the public to determine whether there is enough evidence to pursue a prosecution - has declined to do so.

Of course. there is no requirement for prosecutors to use a grand jury to decide charges, but they are mighty convenient in cases that they may not want to pursue but the public at large does. They can present evidence for the charges specifically to allow a lesser charge and then when there is a public backlash they can simply blame it all on the grand jury.

https://digitalcommons.hamline.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1026&context=jplp

This process allows a prosecutor to take advantage of the likely outcomes of a grand
jury in order to bring charges or fail to bring charges in a way that can appear
blameless to the public. Because information regarding indictment rates with
grand juries is fairly ascertainable, prosecutors can essentially use the grand jury
process to exercise their charging discretion in a way that serves to insulate them
politically. The process allows prosecutors to not look foolish in bringing charges
after a grand jury votes to indict on what might be flimsy evidence, while also
allowing a prosecutor to look competent and faultless when what might be
substantial evidence fails to sway a grand jury

 

[Jabulani22]

Police executed a search warrant. Someone within the property fired on, and wounded, a police officer. Police returned fire and the lady was tragically hit in the process.

These guys don't want facts , they just want compliance , it's the way of leftists.
I was going to post about how the media portrays her vs reality but I realized that they don't care about reality.
When I give sources it's "hurr that's not good enough" , few hours later it's mainstream and they scurry off to debate minutia.

 

[supersunbird]

Police executed a search warrant. Someone within the property fired on, and wounded, a police officer. Police returned fire and the lady was tragically hit in the process.

Was the search warrant executed at the right address or not?

 

[Speedster]

Was the search warrant executed at the right address or not?

It was.

 

[supersunbird]

It was.

The lawsuit said it was the wrong address, and since it's settled it would seem the city agrees. So the source/s of your information that it was the correct address?

 

[ForceFate]

Police executed a search warrant. Someone within the property fired on, and wounded, a police officer. Police returned fire and the lady was tragically hit in the process.

Police obtained a no-knock warrant based on bad intel and outright lies. When they arrived at the address and rammed the door, the guy inside fired shots, thinking it's intruders.

Additionally, the suspect was already in custody.

From the article I linked earlier,

Walker, a licensed gun owner with no criminal record, calls 911 tearfully pleading for help as he thinks a home invasion is in progress.

"Somebody kicked in the door, shot my girlfriend," says Walker to the 911 dispatcher.

edited:

 

[Kieppie]

The lawsuit said it was the wrong address, and since it's settled it would seem the city agrees. So the source/s of your information that it was the correct address?

No that is not the premise of the lawsuit.

 

[Kieppie]

Police obtained a no-knock warrant based on bad intel and outright lies. When they arrived at the address and rammed the door, the guy inside fired shots, thinking it's intruders.

Additionally, the suspect was already in custody.

edited:

Wrong.
It was NOT a no-knock warrant stop believing bull. You are as bad as OD stating "facts" which are in fact not.

 

[The Trutherizer]

A lot of the things you're saying here are just incorrect. She didn't shoot at them, they didn't even claim it was a "drug smuggling den", they claimed an ex-bf of her was sending suspicious packages to the address, which turned out to just be clothes. He didn't even live there, and was already in custody.

They lied on the warrant, and then lied again on the incident report immediately after the shooting. They didn't wear body cameras, they told the ambulance to leave before going in, they didn't announce themselves (they dispute this, but 11 witnesses in the same apartment building said they heard nothing (it was the middle of the night, so it was quiet), while 1 witness said he maybe heard 'something', after saying in two separate interviews he also heard nothing).

Another question is why execute the warrant in the middle of the night without proper protocols in place?

Read this.

Hmm... That does change things. I haven't been following this case. Saw after I posted that it's from May. And I only went on this article in the post. Seems I'm a bit behind.

 

[Kieppie]

If you think the decision to prosecute police in the US is only dictated by facts and evidence I have a bridge to sell you...

Also, the decision in this case wasn't made by the DA, it was made by a Grand Jury.

The fact that the grand jury decided that proves more than you think. Jake Gardner was indicted after the DA did not file charges as it was clearly a case of self defense. There was a large public outcry, again by people who don't no facts and follow social media, and then the grand jury decided to indict.
So you would expect them to do the same here because of the large backlash. Unfortunately some people still peddle in false information. Heck you still see people that believe she was killed in her bed.

 

[Speedster]

The lawsuit said it was the wrong address, and since it's settled it would seem the city agrees. So the source/s of your information that it was the correct address?

I don't believe that is correct.

The search warrant for Taylor and her home explicitly identified her and her address. The Louisville police were not there by mistake. They believed that Taylor had ties to Glover, one of the main suspects in the investigation.

FACT CHECK 2.0: Separating the truth from the lies in the Breonna Taylor police shooting

We gathered the facts based on public records, official statements and interviews with witnesses and people close to the case to knock down myths.

www.courier-journal.com

 

[Vorastra]

So we're meant to believe that this racist police death squad breaks into the home, shoots the woman multiple times (and not the guy who shot at them, somehow), then flees the scene without calling for emergency services to attend to the wounded on site - which is protocol (including their own team member who the thug shot in the leg, requiring him to have emergency surgery to repair the severed artery in his leg)? Or did they stay on site and tell him to phone 911?

Additionally, while they were in possession of an no-knock warrant they didn't need to use it because they were there on a separate warrant (it's available to view online - her and her boyfriend's names are listed on it).

I'm not sure what has more holes in it: the poor woman's body or this entire story.

Holy shet. We actually have our own radical and rabid Leftist. It was just a joke but wow, you people actually exist here.

I don't think I've seen so much BS in one post.

What's it like being this unhinged? Do you scream at the mirror every morning when you see yourself?

 

[Cray]

The fact that the grand jury decided that proves more than you think. Jake Gardner was indicted after the DA did not file charges as it was clearly a case of self defense. There was a large public outcry, again by people who don't no facts and follow social media, and then the grand jury decided to indict.
So you would expect them to do the same here because of the large backlash. Unfortunately some people still peddle in false information. Heck you still see people that believe she was killed in her bed.

Every grand jury is different, because one did one thing doesn't mean that another will do something similar. Prosecutors can sway the decision by the selecting what evidence they present and how they present it which is why some people are asking for their rationale in this case to be made public.

 

[Cray]

Holy shet. We actually have our own radical and rabid Leftist. It was just a joke but wow, you people actually exist here.

I don't think I've seen so much BS in one post.

What's it like being this unhinged? Do you scream at the mirror every morning when you see yourself?

I think you need to re-read his post....