gconey

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Was in need of some Friday humour and these targets abundantly provided just that.
 

marine1

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Lol, by the time we are on 100mb the world will be on virtual reality
 

VegOtter

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really... by 2030 I'm sure the internet will be running at past the 1Gbps side. That should be more of a 5 year plan, so by 2020.
 

Skerminkel

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The 2015 and -20 targets sound promising and realistic. If DoC, with DBE, can make it work in schools, it would be ôsim.
 

pjjdp

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"Rather than aiming low, the DoC has proposed very high targets with..."

Does not make sense. This is not aiming high. 100% at 5Mbps by 2020 is a low target IMO.

100mbps in 2030. LOL, I will be 61.
 

Penquin

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Lol, so the target is to get us up to current world speeds in the next 16 years, only to be 20 years behind again when we get there.
 

LeonG

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So I have to wait 7 years to get a land-line...Hopefully really 5Mbps
 

Guantanamo

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Isn't our average speed approaching 5megs anyway at the moment? The worst part about this is that given the DoC's track record we won't be anywhere near their targets when the deadline comes.
 

jannievanzyl

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"Rather than aiming low, the DoC has proposed very high targets with..."

Does not make sense. This is not aiming high. 100% at 5Mbps by 2020 is a low target IMO.

100mbps in 2030. LOL, I will be 61.

Keen to hear your model for giving ~70 million people in South Africa a 10Mb/s connection in 7 years time and about 30 million of those in 2 years time.

I'm especially keen to see yourr fiber rollout for the next two years to get to 50% of the population and your estimated costs to do so. (hint: any number you come up with needs 10 zeros behind it).

Over to you.....
 

2021

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Keen to hear your model for giving ~70 million people in South Africa a 10Mb/s connection in 7 years time and about 30 million of those in 2 years time.

I'm especially keen to see yourr fiber rollout for the next two years to get to 50% of the population and your estimated costs to do so. (hint: any number you come up with needs 10 zeros behind it).

Over to you.....

The problem is that in 7 years time, 5Mbps will be considered slow.
 

quovadis

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Keen to hear your model for giving ~70 million people in South Africa a 10Mb/s connection in 7 years time and about 30 million of those in 2 years time.

I'm especially keen to see yourr fiber rollout for the next two years to get to 50% of the population and your estimated costs to do so. (hint: any number you come up with needs 10 zeros behind it).

Over to you.....

Ever considered that from 2000 to 2008 we had the third SLOWEST percentage growth in internet users on the entire continent. We were only beaten by Algeria and Liberia (Liberia didnt even have measurable access).... Nigeria went from 200,000 to 10,000,000 in 8 years ...

But I forget this is not some highway in Malawi... or Internet in Nigeria... :p
 

Tns

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so what is the point of setting targets if they never actually going to keep to it/make it?
 

Wimbo

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A Huge Improvement

The Draft Policy is not perfect. However, in my opinion, it's miles and miles better than anything that we've seen before. Some of the ways that it's improved include: -

  • It takes the concept of infrastructure sharing seriously
  • It doesn't assume that either Government, or the DoC, or Telkom, can do it all on their own. It recognises that both the Public and Private Sectors have a role to play
  • It recognises that High Demand Spectrum has to actually be released, and that the DoC needs to get out of the way
  • It recognises the importance of the Rapid Deployment Guidelines to getting stuff done
  • It is far more realistic than anything that we've seen so far from the DoC on this subject
  • It recognises newer methods of assigning spectrum, like TVW
  • It acknowledges that ICASA must be given enough resources to do its work, and that starving it won't work
  • And yes, the targets are vastly better - higher - than anyone has had the courage to set before
  • It recognises that ICASA is the correct body to review the targets from time to time. They won't stay static, you can be sure.

So, as someone who's actually there today, has read the Draft Policy, and is contributing to the process, I'm much less unhappy than I've been in the past.
 
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