Bulk SMS website Developer needed

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Hi guys,

I recently signed an agreement with a big telecoms provider for cheap sms rates. They have a SMPP gateway and provide all the code and examples to integrate. I already have a big client that will use these cheaper rates from me.

I also want to create a website that people can register on to send sms's.

Now I don't have the neccessary experience in development of a website.

I need someone that has done this before that will do it for a fee or for a profit share.

If you can do this, please contact me.

Thanks!
 

MielieSpoor

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Well if you will allow some input from me.

There are a few of these providers out there and all of them provide their service through http, ftp and email. None of them allow you to send the sms's through a SOAP web service.

The world is moving forward but none of these service providers is moving forward! If I could get a service provider allowing me to send Buld SMS messages through a SOAP service, I would switch in an instant!
 

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Well if you will allow some input from me.

There are a few of these providers out there and all of them provide their service through http, ftp and email. None of them allow you to send the sms's through a SOAP web service.

The world is moving forward but none of these service providers is moving forward! If I could get a service provider allowing me to send Buld SMS messages through a SOAP service, I would switch in an instant!

I think what he means is he is now one of these providers, and need someone to help him code whatever the other providers give their clients to use the bulk sms service ;)
 

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I think what he means is he is now one of these providers, and need someone to help him code whatever the other providers give their clients to use the bulk sms service ;)
Yes that I understand, but I meant that he can offer all of those services but also to include a SOAP service to send the messages
 

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Well if you will allow some input from me.

There are a few of these providers out there and all of them provide their service through http, ftp and email. None of them allow you to send the sms's through a SOAP web service.

The world is moving forward but none of these service providers is moving forward! If I could get a service provider allowing me to send Buld SMS messages through a SOAP service, I would switch in an instant!

http://www.clickatell.com/developers/api_soap.php
 

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Well if you will allow some input from me.

There are a few of these providers out there and all of them provide their service through http, ftp and email. None of them allow you to send the sms's through a SOAP web service.

The world is moving forward but none of these service providers is moving forward! If I could get a service provider allowing me to send Buld SMS messages through a SOAP service, I would switch in an instant!

Have a look at Clickatell ... http://www.clickatell.com/ They offer the sending of SMS's via HTTP/S, SMPP, SMTP, FTP, XML, COM Objects, and, awesomely enough, SOAP! I haven't personally used their SOAP service yet, but I have found that their HTTP and FTP facilities work beautifully. And at 30c per SMS, they seem quite cheap in my opinion.
 

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Anyhoo, back to the OP: My company would definitely be interested in considering such a great development opportunity in partnership with you. I'll send you a PM with contact details so that we can try to get the ball rolling. We have had some experience in sending bulk emails and SMS's in a few of our biggest projects so far, so I believe we could do something similar for you.
 

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Yes that I understand, but I meant that he can offer all of those services but also to include a SOAP service to send the messages

I've seen people use SOAP and it's just...too damn hard to understand if you're a client... I'd just use a nice & very simple web service-based API. Give clear instructions with nicely formatted and used words and make it available for some n00b to be able to do instead of a qualified web dev
 

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I am building a site at the moment and AcidRaZor I agree with you, for the purpose of an SMS gateway SOAP is somewhat complicated, REST is a much better idea in this case but to offer the option of both is not allot of work from a development point of view and you to allow the user different strokes for different blokes.
 

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Well I work for one of the largest WASPS in the industry. If your looking at reliability in sending vast volumes then rather setup an SMSC backend.

Its not just about submitting requests but also receiving feedback timelessly - DLRs and MOs.

SMSC accounts (Incorrectly referred to as SMPP) allow you to push and pull at your convenience. HTTP are great if you have 100% uptime and have a static IP else your feedback will get DLQ'd if your server cannot take the load or loss of bandwidth.
 

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Well I work for one of the largest WASPS in the industry. If your looking at reliability in sending vast volumes then rather setup an SMSC backend.

Its not just about submitting requests but also receiving feedback timelessly - DLRs and MOs.

SMSC accounts (Incorrectly referred to as SMPP) allow you to push and pull at your convenience. HTTP are great if you have 100% uptime and have a static IP else your feedback will get DLQ'd if your server cannot take the load or loss of bandwidth.

If you run the service you would want high availability to achieve 100% uptime. REST/SOAP are great because they can provide the real-time feed back you are talking about. In this case SMSC is specific to the message sending and will not be able to cater for reporting requests and anything other than the message itself. This means clients will be needing to develop around multiple protocols.
 

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Well if you will allow some input from me.

There are a few of these providers out there and all of them provide their service through http, ftp and email. None of them allow you to send the sms's through a .

The world is moving forward but none of these service providers is moving forward! If I could get a service provider allowing me to send Buld SMS messages through a SOAP service, I would switch in an instant!

I work with some of the worlds largest content providers and they all use SMSC to tx/rx. Even our connection to various networks are all done via SMSC binds. Its an industry standard.

SOAP (and CORBA) is reserved for OBS billing platforms, but that is between WASP and the networks billing platform.
 
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Other Pineapple Smurf

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If you run the service you would want high availability to achieve 100% uptime. REST/SOAP are great because they can provide the real-time feed back you are talking about. In this case SMSC is specific to the message sending and will not be able to cater for reporting requests and anything other than the message itself. This means clients will be needing to develop around multiple protocols.

Your concerned more with reporting (status of delivery) here.

In reality a WASP can only report on what is happening internally with them and not at the network. Example: If you submit our gateway with a bulk request I can tell you if we received it, submitted it to the network and if what feedback the network gave to us.

Once at the network we cannot give you any more info until the network returns a DLR (I'm keeping this basic to Bulk SMS and not billed / OBS requests).

While getting feedback on where in what queue a particular message is, sounds great if your only sending one message. Send 10'000 and then such reporting becomes invalid as it becomes impractical to track all 10'000.
 

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The world is moving forward but none of these service providers is moving forward! If I could get a service provider allowing me to send Buld SMS messages through a SOAP service, I would switch in an instant!

Try http://sms.tigatel.co.za/
Our company sends out about 25000 sms's every friday with their webservice using out custom application.
 

Other Pineapple Smurf

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And one really important thing RSA is that you will want to get yourself registered with WASPA. If you plan to resell bulk SMSs then you need to also get yourself up to date on the law.

If someone uses your application / portal to spam others you can be held liable. It happens. Don't think its just dodgy Nigerians, companies like RCS are constantly being fined for SMS spam.
 
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