Bulls will win!!! I've got that fuzzy feeling!

[Pitbull]

Lol, yes I forgot you are head couch and you speak to all 10 million rugby supporters daily

Wow, nicely done. Please while you are busy with the sensus could you find out what the majority of SA is thinking on a who could be a possible Springbok flyhalf for the SA vs BaIL tour?

Have you read all the complaints about the senseless kicking of the ball and giving away possesion ? Do you actually watch boots & all, do you listen to the "Legends" post game, analizing the game ? Or do you watch the game, and then change back to Days of our lives ?

 

[Pitbull]

This article was posted on the Superrugby forum a few weeks ago. Give it a read over, it should enlighten you a bit about what rugby has become and what it's doing to the game itself.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/2263421/Rugby-facing-entertainment-issues

 

[Devill]

Have you read all the complaints about the senseless kicking of the ball and giving away possesion ? Do you actually watch boots & all, do you listen to the "Legends" post game, analizing the game ? Or do you watch the game, and then change back to Days of our lives ?

Ok 1) In stats its called a skewed statistic seeing as people with a pain with the rules will phone / write / email more to shows / newspapers /etc about how the game is lost all its fizz.

2) Boots and all is not the holy grail, the game will change face that fact, and if you can't adopt then die

3) I watch enough rugby to be able to see what is working with the new rules but like any other plan if not properly executed it will fail.

Today we kicked a little to much, but if our ball handeling was better and steyn's kicks at goal were better we would have beaten the crusaders with 7 points or more I am sure.

Ek weet it is moeilik om te verstaan dat daar wel ander spanne is in die wereld wat 'n beter rekord het as die Bulls (en ja ek ondersteun hulle al vir 20 van my 23 jaar op aarde) en hulle het die beslis nie met 10 man rugby gedoen nie Vertel asb weer vir my hoe NZ in die laaste paar jaar 10 man rugby gespeel het en dis hoekom hulle die span is met die beste wen persentasie.

 

[Kim_Webchick]

Ha ha ha ha ha
Told you they wouldn't win
Go Sharks Go Sharks

 

[Devill]

This article was posted on the Superrugby forum a few weeks ago. Give it a read over, it should enlighten you a bit about what rugby has become and what it's doing to the game itself.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/2263421/Rugby-facing-entertainment-issues

You are missing the point again. The bulls do not make the rules thus that post is senseless and worthless.

I also prefered the old rules BUT we are not playing by the old rules and its not up to me nor you to change them.

I am commenting on your "10 man rugby winz everytink!" shouts. We are stuck with these rules atm so like I said either adapt or die.

 

[Morgoth]

change is part of any sport, good teams can make it work for them although I still feel that the kicking game isn't the only approach towards playing.

 

[Pitbull]

You are missing the point again. The bulls do not make the rules thus that post is senseless and worthless.

I also prefered the old rules BUT we are not playing by the old rules and its not up to me nor you to change them.

I am commenting on your "10 man rugby winz everytink!" shouts. We are stuck with these rules atm so like I said either adapt or die.

Maybe I'll put this in Afrikaans. Maybe my english is not good enough and we're nto understanding each other.

Die nuwe reëls vehoed glad nie dat daar nog met die voorspelers gespeel kan en mag word nie. Dit het nog nooit en sal nooit. Die nuwe reëls is daar om die spel vinniger te maak. Nêrens in die nuwe reëls sê dit dat daar nie met die bal voorentoe beween mag word in 'n roll gemaal nie. Dit sê ook niks oor die feit dat spelers fase na fase na fase die bal mag maal nie.

Veduidelik asb vir my wat die nuwe reëls waarna jy verwys, te doen het met die skop spelpatroon wat nou deesdae gespeel work ?

 

[Devill]

change is part of any sport, good teams can make it work for them although I still feel that the kicking game isn't the only approach towards playing.

And the 10 man way never was. Barring maybe in the Currie cup but dorethy we aint in the currie cup no more

Maybe I'll put this in Afrikaans. Maybe my english is not good enough and we're nto understanding each other.

Die nuwe reëls vehoed glad nie dat daar nog met die voorspelers gespeel kan en mag word nie. Dit het nog nooit en sal nooit. Die nuwe reëls is daar om die spel vinniger te maak. Nêrens in die nuwe reëls sê dit dat daar nie met die bal voorentoe beween mag word in 'n roll gemaal nie. Dit sê ook niks oor die feit dat spelers fase na fase na fase die bal mag maal nie.

Veduidelik asb vir my wat die nuwe reëls waarna jy verwys, te doen het met die skop spelpatroon wat nou deesdae gespeel work ?

Die probleem is dat by die afbreekpunte daar baie meer mededingendheid is en die verdedigende span baie meer toegelaat word. DUS is daar baie meer "turnover" gaan kyk maar na wedstryd statistiek.

Ook jou idee van "skop maar skop uit" of "skop 'n rolskop" is belaglik. Wys jy vir my hoe 'n rolskop vir jou 40 m veld wen. Gaan kyk ook na hoe goed ons 10 man taktiek vir ons in die super 14 gewerk het. Wanneer het jy die Bulls al ooit sien onder die top 4 spanne wees in the eerste 6 weke van die S14?

Asb as jy wil aanhou met jou "10 man rugby is die beste" mentaliteit gaan gerus voort en dan gaan vertel jy dit sommer vir al die NZ spanne en sommer vir hulle nasionale span die All Blacks wat maar nog altyd erg sukkel en amper nooit wen nie.

 

[Pitbull]

We'll just agree to disagree then

I can see the Bulls making the shift back to the dominant forwards again annihilating them upfront to open the gaps through a few phases. There has been a massive discussion about it the last 2 or 3 weeks specifically in relation to the Bulls.

We'll see how it goes and then maybe later on in the season we can touch base on this subject again after they have changed their game plans back to the way they used to play.

Turnovers are not made easier with the new rules, if you read the actual rule it's suppose to make it harder. Since the coming of great fetchers like Burger and McCaw players have developed and perfected the art of turning over the loose ball. This will happen if you do not stick to the basics. If you have no support on a loose ball you will lose it.

Now by making your forwards all over 100KG's run back and forth chasing a highball will leave them at a point where they will not be at the break of play when needed. I'm not saying don't ever kick a ball. I'm saying if you do it make sure you give the forwards time to get to the break of play. (By kicking it out)

The forwards are the core of an offensive attack. The backs are there to grab opportunities as they arise. And they are the Defense. *Think of NFL* When they are on offense they change the field the smaller quicker guys. This is because NFL is a running game of speed and agility. On defense they change the line up to the bigger guys to stop them up front.

In Rugby however it's different. Speed and agility only comes into play once the Bigger guys have paved the way for your offensive attack. According to what you are saying we should replace the Solid 8 with more Wings and Centers ?

That way you have more than enough people full of speed to run all around the field for the full 80 minutes. Forwards are not ball chasers, they are heavy slow and strong.

But again, this is my view and we'll never agree

 

[saaierwaaier]

Ok, julle almal skryf te veel lang hoofstukke, so as my reply iets cover wat kla gese was vergewe my.

Ek glo daar is 'n plek en tyd in die spel waar die bal geskop kan/moet word. Daar is party up and unders wat maklik gevat kan word. Maar as die speler sien dat sy kanse om die bal weer te vat nie goed is nie, dan moet hy die bal hou. In vandag se game was daar way te veel kere geskop. Hul skop elke keer daai possession weg en dan k.a.k ons.
En as Morne Steyn elke doelskop oorgekry het sou ons gewen het. Ek sien sy patroon oor die afgelope paar wedstryde. Hy skop glad nie meer so goed nie en is nie op wereldstandaard nie. Wat het van Derick Hougaard geword?

 

[Submolecule]

No man, bulls - what the heck? They always loose their head when they tour.

 

[Gothan]

Suddenly the excitement and anticipation of the next game has turned into an uneasy feeling of dread comming over me.

Think the bulls should take out there wallets and buy Frans Steyn, he wants to be nr 10, and we seriously need a COMPETENT nr 10, that actually makes the goal posts..oh I don't know, more than once in ten kicks