Buying vs leasing a car in South Africa – how much it costs

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“However, if you tend to be hard on cars, if you are ‘accident prone’, if you prefer owning a car debt free, or put a great amount of mileage on your car, leasing is probably not for you,” she said.

In the end, owning is leasing with loss. To me, the leasing model with adequate insurance is the way to go as it's the same thing at the end of the day without the asset you still need to sell to be basically in the same financial position.

Added: Forgot to add.. it's basically like renting apartments, cars etc in that they will scrutinise every little thing.. you just don't have to worry about previous tenant/owner damage. But yah.. I suggest people study the damage and cost calc book themselves prior to entering such agreement as the damage costs can be hefty for the unaware.

Again.. for me.. living in Gauteng where people don't even know how to go around the circle correctly or drive only on the road.. doing a lease isnt worth it unless u plan on buying from bank after which works out like a purchase model with lesser bank interest charge because the risk of damage is high. I dunno.. if i had to get a new car though, i'd lease
 
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I much prefer leasing cars, but I don't know of any companies in South Africa that offer leasing
 

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In the end, owning is leasing with loss. To me, the leasing model with adequate insurance is the way to go as it's the same thing at the end of the day without the asset you still need to sell to be basically in the same financial position.

Additionally, I have no desire to own a high cost, rapidly depreciating asset. Asset might even be too generous a word
 

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I would say it makes sense to "own" a cheaper car and lease a fancy expensive car, because repairing an old fancy expensive car is...expensive and most people replace cars on a 3 to 5 year cycle anyway. But a cheaper car can be maintained,serviced and repaired for much less than the installments on a new cheaper car.
 

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Planning to keep my current car for another 6 years, currently 4 years old and almost paid off. And then I'll be giving it to someone else. Can't do that with a leased car.
 

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The South-African mentality is - "Leasing = living beyond your means". This is what most people in SA believe.

I am one of those people that think leasing is a good way to go since I have never had a car longer than 3/4 years and usually the trade ins did not result in any significant gain anyway. I personally do not know many people that keep a car for long.
 

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The South-African mentality is - "Leasing = living beyond your means". This is what most people in SA believe.

I am one of those people that think leasing is a good way to go since I have never had a car longer than 3/4 years and usually the trade ins did not result in any significant gain anyway. I personally do not know many people that keep a car for long.

You started a whole thread on this right? http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807684-The-buying-vs-Leasing-opinion-thread

Something I seem to recall mentioned over there, and something that bugs me about leasing is the example in the article here is complete fiction i.e. I've actually never seen a lease agreement with monthly payments that are significantly lower than the buying-with-residual option.

So what makes leasing any different? It has all the advantages and disadvantages of buying with a big residual.
 

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You started a whole thread on this right? http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807684-The-buying-vs-Leasing-opinion-thread

Something I seem to recall mentioned over there, and something that bugs me about leasing is the example in the article here is complete fiction i.e. I've actually never seen a lease agreement with monthly payments that are significantly lower than the buying-with-residual option.

So what makes leasing any different? It has all the advantages and disadvantages of buying with a big residual.

Don't the "guaranteed future value deals" essentially amount to leasing?
 

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Don't the "guaranteed future value deals" essentially amount to leasing?

Yeah that's kinda my point, almost all the different ways to finance a car aside from the classic hire purchase with no residual at all amounts to the "leasing" that is available in ZA the last time I looked.

There's not much point in giving it yet another name, in other countries I've heard of lease agreements that sound like something more unique e.g. all maintenance and all fuel costs even included and no deposit required at all plus the monthly payments are significantly lower still. Locally it all just seems like wordplay.
 

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Yeah that's kinda my point, almost all the different ways to finance a car aside from the classic hire purchase with no residual at all amounts to the "leasing" that is available in ZA the last time I looked.

There's not much point in giving it yet another name, in other countries I've heard of lease agreements that sound like something more unique e.g. all maintenance and all fuel costs even included and no deposit required at all plus the monthly payments are significantly lower still. Locally it all just seems like wordplay.

What I don't get is if the ads on Hulu are to be believed, you can lease a new Jetta from $139 p.m.in the US. Even with our crappy exchange rate that is ridiculously cheap. Example: http://gunthervwdelray.com/new-lease-specials
 
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You started a whole thread on this right? http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807684-The-buying-vs-Leasing-opinion-thread

Something I seem to recall mentioned over there, and something that bugs me about leasing is the example in the article here is complete fiction i.e. I've actually never seen a lease agreement with monthly payments that are significantly lower than the buying-with-residual option.

So what makes leasing any different? It has all the advantages and disadvantages of buying with a big residual.

Buy back and leasing is the same as you say.

Yes I did start that thread. Ended up with a car that was not leased because Renualt did not do leasing deals. I wanted a renault. If they allowed me to lease it then it would have been great(like VW's Gaurenteed future value).
 

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What I don't get is if the ads on Hulu are to be believed, you can lease a new Jetta from $139 p.m.in the US. Even with our crappy exchange rate that is ridiculously cheap. Example: http://gunthervwdelray.com/new-lease-specials

If i understand it correctly your installment is not based on the total amount of the vehicle but on the value of the vehicle after your leasing period. If the car will be worth R150k with 60k on the clock after 36 months then that + interest is what your payments are calculated on. When you purchase then your payment is on the total cost + interest. I could be wrong though.
 

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I would say it makes sense to "own" a cheaper car and lease a fancy expensive car, because repairing an old fancy expensive car is...expensive and most people replace cars on a 3 to 5 year cycle anyway. But a cheaper car can be maintained,serviced and repaired for much less than the installments on a new cheaper car.

So in the past I'd totally agree with you on this but times be changing fast and insurance & repairs are becoming costly. Let's say a standard card is approx 200k.. I'd rather lease for 3 yrs and buy it after than outright buy as the cost of buying, unless you have the upfront cash, costs more. 2ndly in the end, after the 3 yr term, the bank takes the car unlike the case with ownership wherein you still have to settle with bank as technically you took debt on the total amount.

2ndly cheaper car is not always the best to repair. Some of the tiny matchbox cars are a nightmare once issues arise e.g. Picanto
 

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Buy back and leasing is the same as you say.

Yes I did start that thread. Ended up with a car that was not leased because Renualt did not do leasing deals. I wanted a renault. If they allowed me to lease it then it would have been great(like VW's Gaurenteed future value).

Banks seem to not like taking risk on vehicles which do not retain a predictable value as it skews their models of loss (which is what they want to charge you).
 

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So what makes leasing any different? It has all the advantages and disadvantages of buying with a big residual.

No, because buying with a big residual leaves the onus on YOU to sell the car to pay it off or pay the residual yourself. Leasing means you just hand the car and key back to the delear and walk away.
 

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No, because buying with a big residual leaves the onus on YOU to sell the car to pay it off or pay the residual yourself. Leasing means you just hand the car and key back to the delear and walk away.

The GFV (guaranteed future value) deals pretty much work like that as well even though they are technically a residual.
 
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