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Sign up with GoogleCabana Pub and Restaurant accused of racism
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Hehe Like I said before, in SA we are very lucky, a lot of the biggest criminals wear uniform and drive marked cars
remybfg10k
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there are always 3 sides to a story.
1) The patrons side
2) The restaurants side
3) The truth
Its funny how quickly you can hear people complaining about racism etc and then when the truth actually comes out its a totally different story.
But hey i wasn't there so i can't really comment, i just think that racism is more "under the covers" in this country now, so i myself doubt that they would have been asked to leave so blatantly, maybe something else happened?
1) The patrons side
2) The restaurants side
3) The truth
Its funny how quickly you can hear people complaining about racism etc and then when the truth actually comes out its a totally different story.
But hey i wasn't there so i can't really comment, i just think that racism is more "under the covers" in this country now, so i myself doubt that they would have been asked to leave so blatantly, maybe something else happened?
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The problem is that when black people get turned away for any reason (be it because they are wearing tracksuits, vests, or being drunk), it's always racism and that they cannot believe that 'in this day and age' things like this always happen. It's getting old.
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Ignoring the fact that that is such a huge generalisation that it cannot be used as a logical argument, ow does that prove that in this case it was not racism? There is nothing in the article to suggest that it was anything more than blatant racism - yet you all seem to be looking for reasons to defend the restaurant owner. It's pathetic.
Like I've stated already in this thread. We do not question racism when it is against whites, yet are quick to pull the apologetic trigger when it is against blacks...the mind boggles...
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Ignoring the fact that that is such a huge generalisation that it cannot be used as a logical argument, ow does that prove that in this case it was not racism? There is nothing in the article to suggest that it was anything more than blatant racism - yet you all seem to be looking for reasons to defend the restaurant owner. It's pathetic.
Like I've stated already in this thread. We do not question racism when it is against whites, yet are quick to pull the apologetic trigger when it is against blacks...the mind boggles...
The article says that the manager said 'sorry, we don't allow blacks'. That alone is questionable.
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No, that alone is blatant racism. Nothing more, nothing less. How can you read more into that? We all know of people like this in SA, and I'll repeat it again, it doesn't surprise me that one happens to own a restaurant in Vryheid.
Nothing in the article suggests that it is anything more than racism. Yet you're looking for reasons to justify his actions when nothing points to him being justified in any way...
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Something is not OK in this entire story. If these people wanted to, they can lay a complaint with the human right commission and action can be taken. Like with the barber that refused to cut a black man’s hair.
If the complainants are from the Metro Police they would have been in an ideal position to lay a charge and have it investigated. Now it is just an article that is dividing people all over again. Have the case investigated and if there is any truth in this then close down the restaurant. I am not seeing any mention of an official complaint to the authorities. This leaves the entire issue in the air like a Hydrogen filled Zeplin airship over an active volcano.
There are some tough places in that area, but I have never seen something like this happening. Yes people shall stare when race is predominantly of a specific race. That holds for all places and races.
If the complainants are from the Metro Police they would have been in an ideal position to lay a charge and have it investigated. Now it is just an article that is dividing people all over again. Have the case investigated and if there is any truth in this then close down the restaurant. I am not seeing any mention of an official complaint to the authorities. This leaves the entire issue in the air like a Hydrogen filled Zeplin airship over an active volcano.
There are some tough places in that area, but I have never seen something like this happening. Yes people shall stare when race is predominantly of a specific race. That holds for all places and races.
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I concur fully with DJK. There was a story on 3rd degree about 2-3 years ago of a white resort owner who kicked out a black child from the resort swimming pool. The child had been there with a white family. Such people still exist and there is no denying it.
'Oranje' or 'Orania' is a very good example of such a crowd. A lot of them live amongst us.
If someone can take a gun and randomly open fire on an informal settlement, kicking out black people out of your resturant is nothing...
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Everyone is making assumptions based on no evidence at all. But i suppose that is normal ^_^
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No assumptions made here pal. We are just commenting on a newspaper article that is yet to be disproved. until such time that a contrary report is made we'll go with what's available. anything said that is contrary to what's being reported would have to be backed up by 'evidence'
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What assumptions? I'm commenting on what has been reported. Sure, journalists have been known to cook up "facts", however until evidence is shown that this is in fact not a case of blatant racism, I will comment on what has been reported. I don't believe that is called an assumption.
Now stating "there must be more to this story" is where the assumptions are flying from. For me it is not difficult to believe that this took place, considering I have witnessed first hand the racist actions of some South Africans. However I find the argument that there must be more to this story to be one of denial more than assumption. It is a tough pill for some people to swallow; that these types still exist. And I think that is where the assumptions are being cooked up. Understandable, and I think the assumptions and denial are borne out of a feeling of patriotism to an extent; a warped one, but I don't think the denialists are defending his actions if they're true, merely trying to make this pill easier to swallow for themselves...
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The problem here is that you believe everything happened exactly as in the article. We have the word of the wronged parties, that's all. And I don't for a moment believe that the manager told them to leave because they were black. This is an old ploy used by non-whites when denied entry/service for whatever reason.
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Somewhat. I have explained myself already though. Another explanation would be repetition...
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