Call for annual roadworthiness tests to be made compulsory in South Africa

Zurg said:
Won't really accomplish anything unless you have a way to combat corruption.
I can get a vehicle roadworthiness done and passed indefinitely for like R750 including the normal fee everybody has to pay.

Just means I have to do it more frequently which ultimately costs unnecessary amounts of money.
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Next time I am asking you, cost me about 2.5 times that last year
 
An absolutely rubbish idea. I do not know how the AA can make statements like tat without first canvassing their members, Who doe he think he is ??
 
quovadis said:
Could do both. I just gave my opinion on a more practical approach if roadworthies are to be increased.
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Bjørn Lomborg wrote a report where he examines the United Nations' milenial goals. There are over a hundred and 90% has seen no benefit or negative returns. He reduced them to only a dozen we should focus on. It would be the same for roadworthy tests. Remember you still won't eliminate the whole 5% of cases. If we rather spend the money on our hospitals there would be a lot less deaths overall and not just from car crashes.
 
Swa said:
Bjørn Lomborg wrote a report where he examines the United Nations' milenial goals. There are over a hundred and 90% has seen no benefit or negative returns. He reduced them to only a dozen we should focus on. It would be the same for roadworthy tests. Remember you still won't eliminate the whole 5% of cases. If we rather spend the money on our hospitals there would be a lot less deaths overall and not just from car crashes.
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We spend plenty on our hospitals and soon will be spending more... the NHI ... coming soon. At the end of the day roadworthiness tests are only worth something if they're enforced and I'm not sure saying we could spend that money elsewhere instead is a valid argument in this case.
 
acidrain said:
A debateable topic is whether it should be applied to new cars, id say < 2yo
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Many European countries specify for cars over five years with mandatory 3rd party proof and history. Conditional for granting annual vehicle license.

I think its a great idea, if done properly.

Commercial vehicles and especially taxis or passenger should be from 3 years or less. Or from a certain mileage point.
 
HartsockZA said:
Limit the license, too many dumbasses going for a truck license to drive and tiny car
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You will have to explain this to me very slowly. What is the problem with this? What “special” skills does code 8 give?
 
Yoztruly said:
You will have to explain this to me very slowly. What is the problem with this? What “special” skills does code 8 give?
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Driving a truck compared to driving a car, your turning points are different, the fact that you don't have to parallel park is another great example even parking is diffirent. The fact that when you get a truckers license it automatically allows you to drive a code B without requiring a code B license. too many people going for a truckers license to bypass getting a code B license.

Parallel parking isn't there to teach you the blatant truth of how to park cause even idiots that do, know how to still park like a mampara. It's there to teach you the turning points of your vehicle you intend to drive. a Trucks turning points can be shorter, longer, tighter, the mere fact that pulling away is diffirent, when you take a turn, to LOOK. etc. It's pretty clear that rules are being bypassed to allow a person to go for a trucking license and then drive a car instead, yea sure trucker also drive cars but the masses do it cause they bypass having to learn certain mission critical aspects.
 
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elf_lord_ZC5 said:
The reason, for the ( ? ) ...
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The person who posted seemed to suggest that car fatalities are due to people getting code 10 instead of code 8. So I am genuinely trying to figure out how one comes to this conclusion.
 
HartsockZA said:
Driving a truck compared to driving a car, your turning points are different, the fact that you don't have to parallel park is another great example even parking is diffirent. The fact that when you get a truckers license it automatically allows you to drive a code B without requiring a code B license. too many people going for a truckers license to bypass getting a code B license.
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What specifically in acquiring code B would reduce road accidents and fatalities? I am trying to find that underlying skill that is lost when getting a truck license which contributes to higher accident rates.

Anyway, with the size of SUVs and Bakkies, are the code B people not causing issues because suddenly they are incompetent to handle a car with a different turning point?
 
Yoztruly said:
What specifically in acquiring code B would reduce road accidents and fatalities? I am trying to find that underlying skill that is lost when getting a truck license which contributes to higher accident rates.

Anyway, with the size of SUVs and Bakkies, are the code B people not causing issues because suddenly they are incompetent to handle a car with a different turning point?
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Code B must change, the license in it entirety has to change not just a code 8. I don't believe we have updated our codes and the actual tests for a very long time. which also acts as a major contribution to road fatalities amongst other underlying issues. Only a moron would not see the problems or choose not to see it, which I am sure you are not.
 
If you can do it through a pg glass or something sure. But can you imagine having this done for everyone at the traffic department?
 
supersunbird said:
I have trouble visualizing how bad parallel parking skills can result in road fatalities.... :ROFL:

@HartsockZA will have to explain why having code 10 licenses cause fatal accidents.
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Yoztruly said:
The person who posted seemed to suggest that car fatalities are due to people getting code 10 instead of code 8. So I am genuinely trying to figure out how one comes to this conclusion.
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Seeing as the only major difference is that Code 10 does not require you to do parallel parking, other wise pretty much the same.

If you can drive a Code 10 vehicle then the skills translate easily to Code 8 vehicles.

So I am also not understanding that conclusion.

Had a Code 8, then got a Code 10 later, now have an EC1 class lisence - Code 10, with trailer
 
Yoztruly said:
What specifically in acquiring code B would reduce road accidents and fatalities? I am trying to find that underlying skill that is lost when getting a truck license which contributes to higher accident rates.

Anyway, with the size of SUVs and Bakkies, are the code B people not causing issues because suddenly they are incompetent to handle a car with a different turning point?
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Honestly I think you're reading it but you're choosing not to see it or I doubt the latter cause you do require a certain set of skills to wake up in the morning let alone find your way onto mybb. There are a multitude of issues that support why the entire thing is borked the problem is no one is there to fix it or just wants it broken cause you know money. I have seen first hand aunties and just plane stupid driving trucks or even cars or bikes that have a code 8 and killing people even people close to me and the law even fails because 0 common sense. I feel that a code 8 and all codes need to be reworked cause they help CONTRIBUTE (big word there) to road fatalities

Edit: Again it must take a lot of know how to drive a truck and what I am saying is more often than not people clearly unlike you and old @elf_lord_ZC5 that might have a code 8 don't drive with common sense that a car is not a truck, it's doesn't take a car 2 lanes to turn, or car can stop on a dime and truck can't. a Code 8 in my opinion shouldn't give you a free pass into any vehicle which it clearly does seeing the amount of people that go for the license actually use it to bypass parking which I know to you lot sounds and seems like a waste of air to do BUT it does teach you a lot which I have said before
 
Bismuth said:
Yeah, I always wondered about this aspect of the MOT checks in the UK. A dodgy workshop can say that you need a bunch of stuff done to get your MOT, that may not be required. How does one manage that?
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Generally the test station doesn't do the repairs.
 
HartsockZA said:
Honestly I think you're reading it but you're choosing not to see it or I doubt the latter cause you do require a certain set of skills to wake up in the morning let alone find your way onto mybb. There are a multitude of issues that support why the entire thing is borked the problem is no one is there to fix it or just wants it broken cause you know money. I have seen first hand aunties and just plane stupid driving trucks or even cars or bikes that have a code 8 and killing people even people close to me and the law even fails because 0 common sense. I feel that a code 8 and all codes need to be reworked cause they help CONTRIBUTE (big word there) to road fatalities
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So your conclusion seems to be that people with Code 8 class license have more common sense, than those with a Code 10 class license?
 
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