can a router do this?

Talentloos

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i dont know if this topic was covered already and im too lazy to search. as i dont really know what to search for.

so i live in a flat complex and we have a wireless access point through which we get our internet. my flatmate and i share an account so we only get one login. two wireless devices cannot connect at the same time. we solved the problem with our pc's just trough the lan. but both of us have smartphones (which as you probably know, takes a lot of data) and i am getting a tablet soon. so my question, what device would i need that can login to our access point, but then broadcast so all the wireless devices can just connect to that? does a simple wireless router have these capibilties?

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ok so we have one login on the wireless provider. so one pc connects and we share that connection trough the lan to the other pc. so both our pc's have internet with only one wireless connection. but we want more wireless connections available ie. to also run our internet on our phones and tablets from that single login that we have.
 

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ok so we have one login on the wireless provider. so one pc connects and we share that connection trough the lan to the other pc. so both our pc's have internet with only one wireless connection. but we want more wireless connections available ie. to also run our internet on our phones and tablets from that single login that we have.

PPPoE? Proxy?
 

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The short answer: yes.

Long answer: Make sure said wireless has a physical connection to your broadband modem (ADSL, 3G) and can create a PPPOE connection.
 

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The short answer: yes.

Long answer: Make sure said wireless has a physical connection to your broadband modem (ADSL, 3G) and can create a PPPOE connection.
i dont think you understand me. we dont want a PPOE connection. we need a device that can redistribute the one wifi signal we are connected to so that multiple devices can connect to that one login through wifi and not an ethernet connection
 

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By what I can understand from the OP, is that there's no CAT5 physical connection to the main DSL router. Only wifi, so they have one wifi login, which gives them one IP address.
Now he needs a wifi router which can pick up that wifi, and then provide a secondary wifi access point, local to them. The router will be assigned the single IP address, but it will then provide the gateway for all the other devices which connect to it assigning IP's to them on a different subnet.

You basically want a regular wifi router, where it has a wifi WAN connection. Normally the WAN connection is a wired RJ45 connection.
 

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Would it be possible to put the login info into an AP, the nether side of which goes into the WAN port of a router which itself it set for static/DHCP on its WAN input to get data from the AP?

Or have I completely got the wrong idea? :erm:
 

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Would it be possible to put the login info into an AP, the nether side of which goes into the WAN port of a router which itself it set for static/DHCP on its WAN input to get data from the AP?

Or have I completely got the wrong idea? :erm:
I had to read that a few times :p, but if its possible to put login details on the AP then hell yeah! He'd just have to buy 2 devices then, which would suck. But that should work for sure.

Like a wireless bridge, and then a secondary wifi router?

There's gotta be a way to do it on one device....surely.
 
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@Talentloos
The OP is slightly confusing.
What kind of wireless AP are you using?
Is the wireless AP connecting to something like RedButton or SkyRove to give you internet access?
 

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Yes! A WiFi router can do this.. You need to NAT the connection for the devices on your local
network.
 

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By what I can understand from the OP, is that there's no CAT5 physical connection to the main DSL router. Only wifi, so they have one wifi login, which gives them one IP address.
Now he needs a wifi router which can pick up that wifi, and then provide a secondary wifi access point, local to them. The router will be assigned the single IP address, but it will then provide the gateway for all the other devices which connect to it assigning IP's to them on a different subnet.

You basically want a regular wifi router, where it has a wifi WAN connection. Normally the WAN connection is a wired RJ45 connection.
yeah exactly what he said
 

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I often have this question from customers in complexes where we provide wifi.

Get your youself a TPLink 743 and connect that to your complex's internet access point.

Plug one of the LAN ports from that into the WAN port of a little TPLink 340G. It's pointless getting a 300Mb access point if you are only buying somewhere between 512Kb and 10Mb from the ISP.

The 743 is the WISP client. The 340G is the in house AP.

The other option is a MikroTik RB433 or a RB411R with one radio card bringing signal in and one radio card working as your access point. Mounted in a MikroTik indoor enclosure, this will be a prettier (and more elegant) option, but it's going to cost quite a bit more than the two little TPLinks and will also require more technical knowledge to set up.
 

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I often have this question from customers in complexes where we provide wifi.

Get your youself a TPLink 743 and connect that to your complex's internet access point.

Plug one of the LAN ports from that into the WAN port of a little TPLink 340G. It's pointless getting a 300Mb access point if you are only buying somewhere between 512Kb and 10Mb from the ISP.

The 743 is the WISP client. The 340G is the in house AP.

The other option is a MikroTik RB433 or a RB411R with one radio card bringing signal in and one radio card working as your access point. Mounted in a MikroTik indoor enclosure, this will be a prettier (and more elegant) option, but it's going to cost quite a bit more than the two little TPLinks and will also require more technical knowledge to set up.
NICE!

Pity you have to have 2 devices, but i guess its not a huge cash outlay for them.
 

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I often have this question from customers in complexes where we provide wifi.

Get your youself a TPLink 743 and connect that to your complex's internet access point.

Plug one of the LAN ports from that into the WAN port of a little TPLink 340G. It's pointless getting a 300Mb access point if you are only buying somewhere between 512Kb and 10Mb from the ISP.
Ah! So, subject to finding the correct device with the required capability, I was right on the money... :rolleyes:

The other option is a MikroTik RB433 or a RB411R with one radio card bringing signal in and one radio card working as your access point. Mounted in a MikroTik indoor enclosure, this will be a prettier (and more elegant) option, but it's going to cost quite a bit more than the two little TPLinks and will also require more technical knowledge to set up.
And then away goes Dr Jekell and out comes Mr Hyde and he turns into the rabid routerboard rep :D ..I was wondering how long before one turned up. Still, it's a fair point; it's just that whole pesky knowing how to program the damn things problem (said from the POV of lamenting that I don't).
 

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I often have this question from customers in complexes where we provide wifi.

Get your youself a TPLink 743 and connect that to your complex's internet access point.

Plug one of the LAN ports from that into the WAN port of a little TPLink 340G. It's pointless getting a 300Mb access point if you are only buying somewhere between 512Kb and 10Mb from the ISP.

The 743 is the WISP client. The 340G is the in house AP.

The other option is a MikroTik RB433 or a RB411R with one radio card bringing signal in and one radio card working as your access point. Mounted in a MikroTik indoor enclosure, this will be a prettier (and more elegant) option, but it's going to cost quite a bit more than the two little TPLinks and will also require more technical knowledge to set up.
awe thanks a lot man. this was the answer i was looking for
 

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thanks for all the help people. we got the problem sorted. with some software. so the problem is fixed and it cost me no money. now bring on my galaxy tab 8.9:D
 

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thanks for all the help people. we got the problem sorted. with some software. so the problem is fixed and it cost me no money. now bring on my galaxy tab 8.9:D
How'd you do it then for interest sake?

Is one of your PC's a laptop which can host its own AP or something?
 

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How'd you do it then for interest sake?

Is one of your PC's a laptop which can host its own AP or something?
no. its a profram called connectify. it handles everything. and its run on a wireless card without host capabilities
 
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