Can I request that they skip me for Fibre?

[ProfA]

How they going to get to the next property if they don't go past yours?

They will trench the tar road. Passing my house to the neighbour. They will not trench from the tar road, to my gate/fence.

 

[ToxicBunny]

They will trench the road in front of my house. Passing my house. No digging on the sidewalk in front of my house though. So my water pipes, paving, lawn, sprinkler pipes, electricity lines are safe. That is all I wanted. let them break eggs to make omelettes at those that really want omelettes and don't mind eggs on the ceiling.

I doubt they will trench the whole road... i doubt their wayleaves permit that....

The sidewalk on the other hand is entirely fair game... and any lawn/sprinklerpipes etc are technically not yours so you have no control over them...

 

[Sinbad]

They will trench the tar road. Passing my house to the neighbour. They will not trench from the tar road, to my gate/fence.

Betcha your water and elec pipes will still cross the trench at 90 degrees.

You're cutting off your nose to spite your face here imho...

 

[pinball wizard]

You're cutting off your nose to spite your face here imho...

That was my initial reaction, but I thought I should wear my sadv hat for a moment

 

[ProfA]

I doubt they will trench the whole road... i doubt their wayleaves permit that....

Your sidewalk on the other hand is entirely fair game... and any lawn/sprinklerpipes etc are technically not yours so you have no control over them...

They make about a 8-10cm trench along the length of the entire road. So they can very easily skip me without touching the sidewalk in front of my home. Which they promised to do.

And yes, I know the area in front of my home is technically fair game for the AUTHORITIES. Not for a private company wanting to **** up to make profit. And yes, they probably got approval, so they can be seen as AUTHORITIES. But I take pride in where I live. I paid for sprinklers. And paving. And I pay to have that lawn maintained. So excuse me when I try to stop people from messing it up for THEIR profit.

 

[ToxicBunny]

They make about a 8-10cm trench along the length of the entire road. So they can very easily skip me without touching the sidewalk in front of my home. Which they promised to do.

And yes, I know the area in front of my home is technically fair game for the AUTHORITIES. Not for a private company wanting to **** up to make profit. And yes, they probably got approval, so they can be seen as AUTHORITIES. But I take pride in where I live. I paid for sprinklers. And paving. And I pay to have that lawn maintained. So excuse me when I try to stop people from messing it up for THEIR profit.

What some call centre dude has promised you and what will happen is a different story..

and what you do with the sidewalk is irrelevant, their way-leave gives them permission to do as they see fit in terms of installing the fibre... they will return it back to its original state afterwards though, unlike the authorities who don't care.

 

[ProfA]

Betcha your water and elec pipes will still cross the trench at 90 degrees.

You're cutting off your nose to spite your face here imho...

Cool. I have not seen them hit a water or electricity pipe from the tar road yet.

And how am I spiting my face? I have 40/20 fibre. For R889. 150GB cap. Unlimited between midnight and 6am. I have never ever gotten close to the cap. And do about 2TB in the free time. Get more or less full line speed except during peak times. But it doesn't bother me too much as I don't really need full line speed at that time.

 

[Sinbad]

That was my initial reaction, but I thought I should wear my sadv hat for a moment

Imagine explaining to the estate agents when you try to sell..

yyyeaaaahhhh, this is the only house in the entire suburb that's still on openkak fibre, the only one with no SADV infrastructure available. the ONLY one...

 

[Sinbad]

Cool. I have not seen them hit a water or electricity pipe from the tar road yet.

And how am I spiting my face? I have 40/20 fibre. For R889. 150GB cap. Unlimited between midnight and 6am. I have never ever gotten close to the cap. And do about 2TB in the free time. Get more or less full line speed except during peak times. But it doesn't bother me too much as I don't really need full line speed at that time.

/looks at 100mb symmetrical uncapped for R1200
OK.

 

[ProfA]

What some call centre dude has promised you and what will happen is a different story..

and what you do with the sidewalk is irrelevant, their way-leave gives them permission to do as they see fit in terms of installing the fibre... they will return it back to its original state afterwards though, unlike the authorities who don't care.

You seem to know it all. How about you read first before making comments based on your assumptions. I spoke to the contract manager. He promised it to me.

And they have ****ed up many people in the neighbourhoods (and other areas) pipes and paving without fixing it nearly to the state it was before at MANY people's homes.

 

[ProfA]

Imagine explaining to the estate agents when you try to sell..

yyyeaaaahhhh, this is the only house in the entire suburb that's still on openkak fibre, the only one with no SADV infrastructure available. the ONLY one...

:crylaugh: Not my problem. That is for the new owner to worry about. Openkak is just fine with me.

 

[Sinbad]

:crylaugh: Not my problem. That is for the new owner to worry about. Openkak is just fine with me.

It's going to affect the selling price. THAT is your problem.

 

[ToxicBunny]

You seem to know it all. How about you read first before making comments based on your assumptions. I spoke to the contract manager. He promised it to me.

And they have ****ed up many people in the neighbourhoods (and other areas) pipes and paving without fixing it nearly to the state it was before at MANY people's homes.

Yes I know it.. because at the end of the day, even if the contracts manager promises something to you, but they still go and dig up the sidewalk there is NOTHING you can do to them... zero, zilch, nada... all you do is upset yourself.

 

[ToxicBunny]

It's going to affect the selling price. THAT is your problem.

Its an entirely short sighted position really...

Even if they dig up the road, at some point his power and water lines WILL be exposed and have the risk of being damaged... except it will be harder to locate because they won't be right in front of his property....

 

[calypso]

It's going to affect the selling price. THAT is your problem.

I turned down a property for this reason. I can just imagine when Openserve pull a standard goverment entitiy move and are not longer fucntioning, the OP is going to shout loudest about how his house was missed.

All this fuss for such a standard procedre. You would think the new fibre provider is charging residents for cable to pulled to the house.

 

[Hype]

This whole situation sounds like the guys back in the day getting upset about the guys rolling out electrical cables, then stating that they are quite happy using coal fires and candles at night because it works most of the time. Only to catch onto the bandwagon 3 years too late when the contractors have moved 3 cities down the road and now its a war to get someone who is half bothered to have that rogue 1 unit that wasn't connected on day one and now its the providers fault for not installing it. Ergo the latter part that as time goes on the service will become a prime deal breaker for potential buyers. I mean who wants a house with oil powered internet connection?

But whatever keeps the coal fired geyser warm right?

 

[SauRoNZA]

I turned down a property for this reason. I can just imagine when Openserve pull a standard goverment entitiy move and are not longer fucntioning, the OP is going to shout loudest about how his house was missed.

All this fuss for such a standard procedre. You would think the new fibre provider is charging residents for cable to pulled to the house.

Not to mention when there is a problem with his Openserve line nobody is going to care because they don’t own the majority and therefore need to do a lot of work for one person.

So OP will go weeks possibly months without internet.

 

[DMNknight]

I have fibre already. How is it short-sighted to want to prevent damage to my property for something I already have?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion

You very rightfully want to keep from losing the state of "your" pavement. However, what you are overlooking is that OpenServe are the numskulls that allowed ADSL to deteriorate to such a state that people were DESPERATE for fibre and were willing to pay a premium for it. They were caught with their pants down and are now subject to very healthy competition.

It is therefore shortsighted to cling on to what you have, prevent a "what if" scenario of you water pipe bursting. Be fair, look at yourself stressing about something that hasn't even happened yet and it really isn't the end of the world.

What you gain, is the ability to tell openserve to f'off once their complacent attitude returns and their services return to the dogs bowl.
Having a decent threat of healthy competition may keep your openserve connection working properly over the years, instead of going the way of ADSL.

The long term benefit is worth it, even if you won't ever need it.