Canon Crop Body : Low Noise

Dolby

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Just out of interest - what would the Canon with lowest noise levels at high ISO (crop) available?

I've heard some of the older bodies are better than the newer bodies, so it seems one can't say the latest or most expensive models - although I'm sure 60D is up there?

I heard 50D wasn't as good as 40D either?
 

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Just out of interest - what would the Canon with lowest noise levels at high ISO (crop) available?

Anything with the 18MP sensor. And in that camp, the most recent is probably the best.

I've heard some of the older bodies are better than the newer bodies

You heard wrong. And I'll tell you why. I owned a 40D (10MP), a 50D (15MP) and now a 7D (18MP). When my 40D was stolen, I spent some time shooting with my friend's 350D (8MP). Looking back on those files, it's very clear that the newer sensors are much better.

For interest's sake, it is true, to some degree, that the newer sensors produce more noise. But they also capture more light. Much more light. The older sensors, especially the 350D/20D/5D and earlier vintage, was really quite poor, capturing only about 25% of the light hitting it. The 5D produced better results because of the sheer size of the sensor, but technologically it's one of the worst that Canon has made. The 7D sensor captures 41% and the D3S captures a whopping 57% of the light hitting it. That gives you a much much better signal to noise ratio, even if there is more noise. (source)

I heard 50D wasn't as good as 40D either?

Again, I've owned both. The 50D is better.


EDIT: just to clarify, I'm only referring to 1.6x crop bodies. bwana's 1.3x crop is a different beast...
 
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bwana

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Are you talking from experience there? ;)
No, I have plenty of experience with the Mk3 though and that walks all over the 7D when it comes to High ISO noise (and just about everything else for that matter).

The Mk4 will be mine though! :)
 

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... yea but thing a full frame makes my 200mm seem so small ;)

When I took those Watershed photo's, there was another guy taking photo's with a Nikon D3S - with fantastic high ISO. However, there were a few shots he couldn't get because my lens was larger and I had a crop factor. If I had a crop and full frame, I'm not sure I'd be using full frame in every situation .... as some situations a crop may be better!

Thanks for the detailed answer!
 

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Just out of interest - what would the Canon with lowest noise levels at high ISO (crop) available?

I've heard some of the older bodies are better than the newer bodies, so it seems one can't say the latest or most expensive models - although I'm sure 60D is up there?

I heard 50D wasn't as good as 40D either?

Dolby, check the 60D review on drpreview.com http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos60D/page11.asp scroll down to the RAW noise comparison (switch it to graph display and change the comparison cameras to Canon crops). You will see the 7D is on the bottom with the 50D on top ( :( )
 

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When I took those Watershed photo's, there was another guy taking photo's with a Nikon D3S - with fantastic high ISO. However, there were a few shots he couldn't get because my lens was larger and I had a crop factor. If I had a crop and full frame, I'm not sure I'd be using full frame in every situation .... as some situations a crop may be better!
That reminds me, I bought the 70-200 f/2.8 when I was asked to cover a concert recently and the stage was so vast I ended up shooting most of it with a 300mm f/2.8 :eek:
 
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