Moosedrool
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There needs to be a study done on the long term psychological effects of being friends with a vaper. A person can only take in so much smug and self righteousness.
They are one and the sameVaping is about harm reduction for cigarette smokers which it does well. Loads of money pouring into the propaganda campaign from the tobacco industry.
Vaping is about harm reduction for cigarette smokers which it does well. Loads of money pouring into the propaganda campaign from the tobacco industry.
They are one and the same
They are one and the same
I can get behind switching from cigarettes to vape, but all the younger people joining my company (think early 20s) are now vaping even though they have never smoked. That's just as stupid as smoking in my books.
this guy has it spot onUseful context in this video from Big Clive who knows about vaping and electronics:
ftfyDo you even know anything about the liquid that is used in a vaping device?
I suggest going to look it up, there are very few chemicals in there when buying from a trusted source.
Where does the nicotine come from? (Genuinely curious)Most, if not all the local liquid is privately made here, nothing to do with big tobacco.
What I can't believe is the people that are dismissing the health warnings without any evidence. Wasn't that what happened with smoking cigarettes for all those years.
Who is doing that? Nobody serious is claiming that its good for you but the evidence says its a darn sight better for you than smoking.
CDC warns against vaping as mysterious "vape lung" disease spreads
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has warned against the dangers of vaping as the number of people afflicted by a mysterious "vape lung" condition continues to increase.
It has been reported that around 450 people are thought to be affected by this condition, with as many as five dying from it.

Nearly all the deaths and lung illnesses reportedly ‘linked to vaping’ involved people vaping contaminated black-market cannabis (THC) oil purchased from street vendors. No cases have been linked to nicotine vaping.
In the US, some illicit manufacturers of cannabis liquid have recently been using Vitamin E acetate in the production process. This oil causes severe inflammation in the lungs when inhaled. Sufferers experience shortness of breath, cough, chest pain and damaged lung tissue which can be fatal.
Testing of most of the cannabis liquid samples by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has confirmed the presence of this toxic chemical. Legal cannabis liquid purchased from licensed shops is routinely tested and has not been affected. Some users were also vaping nicotine, but no samples of nicotine e-liquid have tested positive.
No one has all the answers yet as it's all fairly recent news at the moment - but several deaths have already been attributed to vaping, and at least one of those people was quite young.
Most smoking deaths can take quite a few years to occur. If true, and these deaths are indeed due to vaping then it seems that vaping can take very little time to kill. And if people think that there is nothing harmful about vaping they will likely do it more frequently, which would cause even more harm.
The only thing that's probably healthy to smoke is distilled water.
Maybe a sign that people shouldn't be vaping.Distilled water is very difficult to combust
The headline is misleading, as its not actually a disease, and its not spread from person to person.