CDC warns against vaping as mysterious "vape lung" disease spreads

Techne

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The Douche Flute gives you Douche Lung. A pulmonary disease causing inflammation of the alveolar type I cells and also damages surfactant secreting type II alveolar cells. This causes a restrictive disorder that decreases lung volume due to decreased lung compliance.
 

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I'm always astounded by the ignorance displayed by the anti-smoking-or-inhaling-anything crusaders. Vaping saves lives. Saved mine.

This issue has been blown far out of proportion. Seems like any ammunition against vaping is gold nowadays.
 

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I'm always astounded by the ignorance displayed by the anti-smoking-or-inhaling-anything crusaders. Vaping saves lives. Saved mine.

This issue has been blown far out of proportion. Seems like any ammunition against vaping is gold nowadays.
Not ignorance. It may have saved some but it also results in some starting their addiction. Funny how cigarettes used to be THE gateway drug nobody wanted to acknowledge. Now it may be vaping.
 

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"Gateway drug" will always exist. Cigs really mess you up. Vaping, much less so. Much, MUCH less so.

Millions of people would not have been able to quit smoking, had it not been for vaping.

So yes, ignorance. Vaping is orders of magnitude less harmful.
 

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No ignorance is making it off as nothing and vaping as being good. "Millions" (an exaggeration perhaps?) may have quit smoking because of it, nobody is denying it. But it's not like there hasn't been other options. The problem being pointed out is that people view it as safe when it really isn't. Just because it's not as bad a cigarettes (something we don't know yet) doesn't mean it isn't bad.
 

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I think most of us can agree that vaping is better than smoking. Doesn't mean you should vape... unless you smoke and want to quit.
 

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I think most of us can agree that vaping is better than smoking. Doesn't mean you should vape... unless you smoke and want to quit.
Sure, but it must also be highlighted that there are other alternatives. I know of many people who stopped without vaping.
 

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Sure, but it must also be highlighted that there are other alternatives. I know of many people who stopped without vaping.
Maybe I can quit half way through and only get 1/2 cancer and 1/2 vape lung.
 

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Millions of smug hipsters dying from something that is completely preventable? I am completely and utterly devastated.

People don't need protection from themselves. Your lungs are there to provide oxygen to your body, not there for you to look cool. If you don't care about this hate fact, then you shouldn't be supprised when natural selection takes place.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/te...s-today-2019-09-13/?__twitter_impression=true
 

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I think most of us can agree that vaping is better than smoking. Doesn't mean you should vape... unless you smoke and want to quit.
How about you just not buy cigarettes?

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Millions of smug hipsters dying from something that is completely preventable? I am completely and utterly devastated.

People don't need protection from themselves. Your lungs are there to provide oxygen to your body, not there for you to look cool. If you don't care about this hate fact, then you shouldn't be supprised when natural selection takes place.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/te...s-today-2019-09-13/?__twitter_impression=true

And, I am willing to bet there is a high correlation between those who vape, and those who demand healthcare for all.
 

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How about you just not buy cigarettes?

"I can't control how I spend my money, but I want to be regarded as an agent whose opinion should be taken into account when selecting the leadership of the state".
I've quit before... for 7 years. I know it's not that hard... But for now i'm enjoying it. I'm also trying to get a full time degree behind my name while working full time. No time for withdrawal atm.
 

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No ignorance is making it off as nothing and vaping as being good

Nobody sensible says it good, just better than cigarettes.

I haven't had a cig since the day I started vaping - feel better, smell better, my taste is better.

Not sure why there's so much hate for vapers, are they affecting your lives ?
 

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Nobody sensible says it good, just better than cigarettes.

I haven't had a cig since the day I started vaping - feel better, smell better, my taste is better.

Not sure why there's so much hate for vapers, are they affecting your lives ?
There are indeed those who claim it's good as it stops cigarette smoking without taking into consideration those who would not have otherwise smoked. We don't even know if it's really better than cigarettes unless it can get you to stop smoking. The cigarette industry also showed that smoking wasn't bad with study after study despite the negative effects being quite apparent.
 

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I think most of us can agree that vaping is better than smoking. Doesn't mean you should vape... unless you smoke and want to quit.
agree, i smoked for 28yrs and then vaped for 5 yrs, big difference, i quit everything 11 months ago, can feel a huge difference now :thumbsup:
 

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