Ceil Inverter 850VA (600W) PURE SINE WAVE (Mecer Alternative) Lead Acid Only

Dylan_G said:
Thanks for the update.

So besides the fan noise when the unit is charging, its completely silent? Ie no buzz as it's PSW?
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Yeah no buzz from what I noticed and power supplies do not buzz, but I'll listen more carefully today and give an update in the other thread
 
So an update from my side is that it looks like my Ceil 1450VA inverter is now charging mostly as expected. It's been through two load shedding cycles now and went through a charging period (light flashing) and after some time the light is now steady and appears to be floating the batteries at 27.5V (2 x Hubble S-120s connected in series) according to the Ceil's LCD reading. Not sure what changed but at least I don't have to turn the thing off and on every day. I'm wondering if it's related to this wording in the manual (from earlier in this thread):
When the level stops increasing it locks that battery as level as a Boost level and maintains this for the four months.
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I'm am not sure if the inverter is charging the batteries to full capacity or floating them at the correct voltage - I think having a charge controller where you can set these variables would be optimal with these batteries.
 
ristic said:
So an update from my side is that it looks like my Ceil 1450VA inverter is now charging mostly as expected. It's been through two load shedding cycles now and went through a charging period (light flashing) and after some time the light is now steady and appears to be floating the batteries at 27.5V (2 x Hubble S-120s connected in series) according to the Ceil's LCD reading. Not sure what changed but at least I don't have to turn the thing off and on every day. I'm wondering if it's related to this wording in the manual (from earlier in this thread):


I'm am not sure if the inverter is charging the batteries to full capacity or floating them at the correct voltage - I think having a charge controller where you can set these variables would be optimal with these batteries.
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@ristic This setup still working for you ? As was looking at changing my batteries on my Ceil 1450va after reading this thread thinking of selling the Ceil now...

@RedViking would love to hear your final thoughts on the Ceil.
 
mrlgm007 said:
@ristic This setup still working for you ? As was looking at changing my batteries on my Ceil 1450va after reading this thread thinking of selling the Ceil now...

@RedViking would love to hear your final thoughts on the Ceil.
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Not compatible with the Hubble and I assume other drop in replacement Lithiums. Unless you get lucky, for a while anyways.

The Mecer 2400VA is more reliable or if you want pure sine or an Axpert type/hybrid inverter.

Eventually replaced one Ceil with a Mecer 2400VA and the other with a Hybrid 1kva

Axpert Type 1KVA-5KVA Hybrid Inverter (Viking's Review)

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It was a bummer because the Ceil was fairly affordable and quiet, but you will need to stick to LA's.
 
mrlgm007 said:
@ristic This setup still working for you ? As was looking at changing my batteries on my Ceil 1450va after reading this thread thinking of selling the Ceil now...

@RedViking would love to hear your final thoughts on the Ceil.
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For the record mine seems to be working fine now, it indicates that it stops charging, obviously time will tell but so far the systems been working great
 
mrlgm007 said:
@ristic This setup still working for you ? As was looking at changing my batteries on my Ceil 1450va after reading this thread thinking of selling the Ceil now...
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Yes it is still working quite well. I think one thing to be weary of is that I think the Ceil will happily run the batteries down to the point (voltage) where the BMS in the batteries will cut power from them. There is no way to set a low cutoff voltage on the Ceil. I have seen word of having to kick/jump start the batteries if they reach this low voltage BMS cutoff state to get them charging again. To be clear, I haven't had this happen to me but I've been weary not to run them down to a very low charge.
 
ristic said:
Yes it is still working quite well. I think one thing to be weary of is that I think the Ceil will happily run the batteries down to the point (voltage) where the BMS in the batteries will cut power from them. There is no way to set a low cutoff voltage on the Ceil. I have seen word of having to kick/jump start the batteries if they reach this low voltage BMS cutoff state to get them charging again. To be clear, I haven't had this happen to me but I've been weary not to run them down to a very low charge.
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I had this scenario once where the system turned off because the power was out for several hours, and when it returned the system didn't need any intervention
 
Steamy Tom said:
I had this scenario once where the system turned off because the power was out for several hours, and when it returned the system didn't need any intervention
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Maybe the load (voltage drop) was enough for the bms to recover on its own when the load was removed and the voltage recovered?
 
RedViking said:
Not compatible with the Hubble and I assume other drop in replacement Lithiums. Unless you get lucky, for a while anyways.

The Mecer 2400VA is more reliable or if you want pure sine or an Axpert type/hybrid inverter.

Eventually replaced one Ceil with a Mecer 2400VA and the other with a Hybrid 1kva

Axpert Type 1KVA-5KVA Hybrid Inverter (Viking's Review)

Disclaimer: All information is for educational purposes only. Always use a qualified electrician to alter,modify or add to the equipment. Electricity can kill. Notice something is wrong? Switch it off and phone the manufacturer for advice. I do not take any responsibility for information that is...
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It was a bummer because the Ceil was fairly affordable and quiet, but you will need to stick to LA's.
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Thanks for the reply will look at a hybrid system that can do solar and Lithiums.
 
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post, i dont want to start a new topic and i I have a Dynex (Ceil) 1450 24v inverter with 2 Royal 100ah batteries so i thought this would be a good place to ask.

I would like to add 1 or 2 Canadian solar 395w solar panels to keep the batteries topped up during day time loadshedding to try get more life out of the batteries, i dont pull more than 300w at any one time either way so it will be 90% running straight from solar. Now im not 100% sure if this can be done. Do i only need to get an external charge controller, connect the panels to the controller and then the contoller to the batteries and unplug from eskom?

Is this correct or am i over simplifying it?
 
Terence1983 said:
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post, i dont want to start a new topic and i I have a Dynex (Ceil) 1450 24v inverter with 2 Royal 100ah batteries so i thought this would be a good place to ask.

I would like to add 1 or 2 Canadian solar 395w solar panels to keep the batteries topped up during day time loadshedding to try get more life out of the batteries, i dont pull more than 300w at any one time either way so it will be 90% running straight from solar. Now im not 100% sure if this can be done. Do i only need to get an external charge controller, connect the panels to the controller and then the contoller to the batteries and unplug from eskom?

Is this correct or am i over simplifying it?
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Yes, you need an external mppt controller for the panels to plug into and the controller plugged into the battery, then set the charge voltages of the controller slightly higher than the inverter charger so solar takes preference.
 
wingnut771 said:
Yes, you need an external mppt controller for the panels to plug into and the controller plugged into the battery, then set the charge voltages of the controller slightly higher than the inverter charger so solar takes preference.
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Could you suggest an mppt controller that wont break the bank. The PWM controllers are like a quarter of the price of an mppt.
 
Terence1983 said:
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post, i dont want to start a new topic and i I have a Dynex (Ceil) 1450 24v inverter with 2 Royal 100ah batteries so i thought this would be a good place to ask.

I would like to add 1 or 2 Canadian solar 395w solar panels to keep the batteries topped up during day time loadshedding to try get more life out of the batteries, i dont pull more than 300w at any one time either way so it will be 90% running straight from solar. Now im not 100% sure if this can be done. Do i only need to get an external charge controller, connect the panels to the controller and then the contoller to the batteries and unplug from eskom?

Is this correct or am i over simplifying it?
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would you not leave eskom plugged in though, because otherwise you will always be running off of the batteries...
 
Steamy Tom said:
would you not leave eskom plugged in though, because otherwise you will always be running off of the batteries...
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The problem is, when there is power, then the inverter is in bypass mode, so the solar goes to waste as the battery is full and the load is supplied by eksdom.
 
Steamy Tom said:
would you not leave eskom plugged in though, because otherwise you will always be running off of the batteries...
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Yes this is another thing i would like to know, can i leave it plugged in and then use solar day time to keep the batteries charged and eskom power at night to keep it charged.
 
Can anyone suggest a decent small 12V inverter to use with a LifePo4 battery?

My Ecco12v unit has kicked the bucket and I need something rather urgently as a replacement
I have looked at the MUST12V unit from Geewiz as at least that unit has a Lithium charging function alongside some adjustable parameters but wondering what else is out there?
 
Mista_Mobsta said:
Can anyone suggest a decent small 12V inverter to use with a LifePo4 battery?

My Ecco12v unit has kicked the bucket and I need something rather urgently as a replacement
I have looked at the MUST12V unit from Geewiz as at least that unit has a Lithium charging function alongside some adjustable parameters but wondering what else is out there?
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Looks good!
Not much (PWM, 7 days):
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