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The_Pumpkin_King

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And then you get the ones who repeatedly attempt to defend the use of the choker tag!

The Cobras (yes them, not the eagles! Seems it may well be someone else who is high....) scored 175 runs! One of the better scores of the tournament. This score was then chased down by a team that has become known for their lethal batting in this tournament.

The loss probably boils down to one thing - the three missed catches! If those were taken then it would have been different. Does dropping a catch then equate to being chokers? If so then think every cricket team can be labelled chokers as I do not know of a team that has never dropped a catch!

Seriously guys if you cannot actually provide some constructive and intelligent feedback after a game then try not to just resorting to throwing out the choker tag. It is so old already!

omg dude do you work for CSA?

the cobras, as is with the national team, were one of the best teams, if not the best during the tournament and threw it all away when it got down to big matches. they didnt only drop a few catches, the batting wobbled half way through, the bowling was pathetic, and the miss-fields were shocking, even my mother laughed at them!

its apparent our top cricketers cant handle pressure even at club level which is leaking into the national squad.

but according to you we should just hug them and say "well atleast you managed 80m in a 100m race"
 

killadoob

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They never threw the game away.

They drop 3 catches so what. The problem was their score was not enough. We can harp on the catches but they never got enough runs. They needed 190 minimum.

TNT have so much batting power 175 was never enough.
 

JK8

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Hard not to use the chokers tag, but they stood no chance against TnT! 3 drop catches is really poor for these players especially against this TnT side.
I guess if you want to use the chokers tag, you can, another semi another loss, its seeping through...
 

lilggg

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The problem was their score was not enough. We can harp on the catches but they never got enough runs. They needed 190 minimum.

I reckon the score wud've been enough if they had caught those catches,even just 1 catch might have changed the game.
 

killadoob

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I reckon the score wud've been enough if they had caught those catches,even just 1 catch might have changed the game.

Might have, how do you know that those catches did not bring pollard who finished the game by the 18th over?

You can say it may have changed the game, i can it may not have but we will never know. One thing is for sure that a par score is never good.
 

Kilgore_Trout_Redux

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They drop 3 catches so what.

So what?

My under 12 cricket coach would have made the whole team run laps until we puked for saying something like that. (I recall being dropped from the under 12 team for a game after dropping one simple catch like that, nevermind two.)

Three dropped sitters is the difference between 50/2 and 50/5.

Dropped catches lose matches.
 

killadoob

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No brendan you see the way i look at it is if they had taken the first one, the entire chain of events would have changed and there would not have been another 2.

I never understand how people think 3 dropped catches would have been 3 wickets as things would have changed.

For all we know if the first was taken a new batsmen would have come in and destroyed them, the other 2 catches would not have happened.

They simply needed more runs to defend.
 

AirWolf

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The first two dropped catches were off Simmons who got out shortly thereafter anyway. The third was off Bravo, which would have brought on Pollard.

I agree with killa on this one, the Cobras might have got a worse beating if Pollard came on.
 

Stephen

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I agree with Lancelot, this whole "choke" thing is getting really old.

I wonder sometimes if people actually know what the word means
 

JK8

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The first two dropped catches were off Simmons who got out shortly thereafter anyway. The third was off Bravo, which would have brought on Pollard.

I agree with killa on this one, the Cobras might have got a worse beating if Pollard came on.

I think killer is being stupidly diplomatic, he cant tell the future.
Pollard is good and in form, yes he could have ruined the bowlers, but he could have also went out.

Those catches had to be taken, still think TnT would have crossed the line though.
 

JK8

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I agree with Lancelot, this whole "choke" thing is getting really old.

I wonder sometimes if people actually know what the word means

It means you dont play to your full potential in the semi final.
 

AirWolf

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I think killer is being stupidly diplomatic, he cant tell the future.
Pollard is good and in form, yes he could have ruined the bowlers, but he could have also went out.

Those catches had to be taken, still think TnT would have crossed the line though.

If catch one was taken, there certainly would not have been a catch two, because both were off Simmons, and like I said he was caught shortly after, so the first two catches had little significance on the game.

But that aside, we all pretty much agree that the Cobras were short on runs - they only got 2 runs in the final over - the biggest difference maker IMHO.

As for this choking this - this is South Africa:
In soccer we lose a lot and the coach gets fired; in cricket we always get knocked out in the semis- nothing new and certainly nothing to get frustrated over - GET OVER IT PEOPLE:D.
 

killadoob

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I think killer is being stupidly diplomatic, he cant tell the future.
Pollard is good and in form, yes he could have ruined the bowlers, but he could have also went out.

Those catches had to be taken, still think TnT would have crossed the line though.

You cannot tell the future either so you cannot tell me pollard would have gone early can you?
 

JK8

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You cannot tell the future either so you cannot tell me pollard would have gone early can you?

How much money would you put on Pollard pulling it off again?
If anything, the Cobras could/should already done their homework and would have had a plan to get him out.

Its 20twenty cricket. Anything can happen. There is no clear leader in the game yet.
 

killadoob

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Well t&t had a plan for duminy did that succeed? Just because one has a plan does not mean it will be a successful plan.
 
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