China detaining millions of Uyghurs? Serious problems with claims by US-backed NGO and far-right researcher ‘led by God’ against Beijing

Nicodeamus

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No it doesn't. Have you tried to actually Google before just believing the Chinese propaganda.


This is my source for all things China.

And "fanatics" can be factually correct on many things they almost always are in identifying a certain problem. It is their incorrect beliefs about how the problem should be fixed that is normally extreme or fanatical.

Again you're not even reading the articles, the source for the genocide claims that the media amplifies (including Youtube and google) is based on a faulty study by a far right (yes actual far right) source.
 

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Again actually read the article,


then you go and cite the AP report that refers to the same debunked document.

So it isn't just stop it's you being fooled, because you don't bother to check the sources that AP uses.

Ever wonder how Hitler's policies were defended? Read your posts here.

It's not so bad guys, really not that bad. Forced internment camps, sterilization, and ethnic genocide not so bad guys, it's based on far-right articles guys.
 

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Ever wonder how Hitler's policies were defended? Read your posts here.

It's not so bad guys, really not that bad. Forced internment camps, sterilization, and ethnic genocide not so bad guys, it's based on far-right articles guys.

My god... please read the articles before you post them, because you are making a complete fool out of yourself.

"Cross-referencing this information with other media sources, Zenz suggests that at least several hundred thousand and possibly over a million Uighurs and other Muslim minorities could have been interned for re-education.


Adrian ZENZ is the far right extremist (and not conservative, ACTUAL Neo NAZI).


The Trump and Biden administrations have relied on the work of a right-wing religious extremist, Adrian Zenz, for their “genocide” accusation against China. A close review of Zenz’s research reveals flagrant data abuse and outright falsehoods.



or watch this video to explain how the situation is misrepresented.
 

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Again, what is your source? If it comes from a group that is full of known fanatics...you need to question if you aren't being misled.
Given how such terms have been used to describe anyone that actually believes what they say they do outside of the leftist orthodoxy...... it takes a lot more to prove actual fanaticism to me these days than superficial MSM accusations.
 

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My god... please read the articles before you post them, because you are making a complete fool out of yourself.




Adrian ZENZ is the far right extremist (and not conservative, ACTUAL Neo NAZI).






or watch this video to explain how the situation is misrepresented.
Max Blumenthal is a regular on putting forth Beijing propaganda and makes appearances on their official news channels.

You, sir, are a genius.

Please inform those of us that are confused why Beijing gives people a guarded escort if they want to travel around Xinjiang? Why is it that first-hand accounts of Uyghurs that escaped say that are being "hunted down"?
 

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Given how such terms have been used to describe anyone that actually believes what they say they do outside of the leftist orthodoxy...... it takes a lot more to prove actual fanaticism to me these days than superficial MSM accusations.

I agree that it has been abused to the point that we can no longer identify an actual far right extremist or Nazi, but in this case, this guy comes from groups clearly linked to these activities. More important to me is that his sources are faulty.
 

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Max Blumenthal is a regular on putting forth Beijing propaganda and makes appearances on their official news channels.
Actually not true, he only goes on there because no western media source wants to listen to them. Have you watched the video from the Massachusetts Peace Action?

You, sir, are a genius.
Why thank you.

Please inform those of us that are confused why Beijing gives people a guarded escort if they want to travel around Xinjiang? Why is it that first-hand accounts of Uyghurs that escaped say that are being "hunted down"?

No one is denying that there is oppression happening in that region, but the claims of sterilization and genocide is based on faulty reports and does not add up. You need to be able to get that distinction in your head.
An inaccurate picture is going to result in another US crusade and that military hawks would love for that to occur.
 

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Actually not true, he only goes on there because no western media source wants to listen to them.


Why thank you.



No one is denying that there is oppression happening in that region, but the claims of sterilization and genocide is based on faulty reports and does not add up. You need to be able to get that distinction in your head.
An inaccurate picture is going to result in another US crusade and that military hawks would love for that to occur.
Tiananmen Square is fiction. The coronavirus does not transmit to humans. That is Beijing media.
You are just lapping it up because it fits with *your* crusade.

You have no idea the suffering you are undermining with your ignorance. Unless you actually come to China to inform yourself, please stfu, because you are defending some truly horrid sht.
 

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Again you're not even reading the articles, the source for the genocide claims that the media amplifies (including Youtube and google) is based on a faulty study by a far right (yes actual far right) source.
This is not true. You should not believe BS Chinese propaganda.
 

Nicodeamus

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Tiananmen Square is fiction. The coronavirus does not transmit to humans. That is Beijing media.
You are just lapping it up because it fits with *your* crusade.
I never said any of that.. you just made it up.

You have no idea the suffering you are undermining with your ignorance. Unless you actually come to China to inform yourself, please stfu, because you are defending some truly horrid sht.
no I am asking for accuracy as claims with genocide demands extraordinary evidence.
 

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You didn't ask for accuracy, that's a lie.

Then you just didn't read a single article that I posted in this thread, the claim of mass sterilization and genocide rely on faulty sources in particularly that cited by Adrian ZENZ.
Again watch the video that explains how baseless many of the claims are.
 

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How can you quote a CNN article. They're widely known for their fake news and exaggerated narratives and propaganda.
 

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Yes that guy wrote the reports that you guys are citing.
 

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Then you just didn't read a single article that I posted in this thread, the claim of mass sterilization and genocide rely on faulty sources in particularly that cited by Adrian ZENZ.
Again watch the video that explains how baseless many of the claims are.
I'm not going the watch your conspiracy nonsense.

I have given you a better source and a quick Google will reveal even more.
 

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Adrian ZENZ is the far right extremist (and not conservative, ACTUAL Neo NAZI).
I can't find anything proving that other than Chinese sources or people misrepresenting things he said....

Why do you say he is this?
 

Nicodeamus

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I'm not going the watch your conspiracy nonsense.

I have given you a better source and a quick Google will reveal even more.

It is not conspiracy nonsense,

it goes through the sources that the media sites one by one and shows why they are wrong. How is that a conspiracy?

It also isn't a CCP site, the Massachusetts Peace Action group and organization that stands for diplomacy and not another war.
 
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