China detaining millions of Uyghurs? Serious problems with claims by US-backed NGO and far-right researcher ‘led by God’ against Beijing

[rambo919]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0792WB8WV/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0

He wrote that book for example.

You are going to have to explain the Nazi-ness of that to me.....

 

[Nicodeamus]

You are going to have to explain the Nazi-ness of that to me.....

 

[rambo919]

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Yes and? This is an objective truth.... this happened.

EDIT: and it explains nothing of why the book is Neo Nazi

 

[Wut]

Please inform those of us that are confused why Beijing gives people a guarded escort if they want to travel around Xinjiang?

Calling BS on that as I traveled to Kashgar in 2019. You are not assigned a guarded escort, but there are plenty of police/army checkpoints. You do get questioned a lot when you go to smaller towns and villages, but they normally just check your passport and you are on your way as the officers mostly cannot speak English. When you do find an English-speaking one you get treated like royalty as they practice all their English skills while feeding you tons of snacks.

It was similar to traveling in the south of Thailand, the north of Laos and the west of Myanmar. Yes, minorities are treated as second-class citizens in all of those regions and there are heavy police/military presences.

 

[rietrot]

It is not conspiracy nonsense,

it goes through the sources that the media sites one by one and shows why they are wrong. How is that a conspiracy?

It also isn't a CCP site, the Massachusetts Peace Action group and organization that stands for diplomacy and not another war.

Reporter on China's treatment of Uighur Muslims: "This is absolute Orwellian style surveillance"

More than a million Chinese Uighur Muslims are being detained in government "re-education" camps

www.cbsnews.com

Here's a news article for you on the uyghurs muslims. It list various sources including everything from a UN rights report to a leftie Vice documentary of someone actually going there so that you don't have to rely on your only "far right" source.

 

[Brenden_E]

Calling BS on that as I traveled to Kashgar in 2019. You are not assigned a guarded escort, but there are plenty of police/army checkpoints. You do get questioned a lot when you go to smaller towns and villages, but they normally just check your passport and you are on your way as the officers mostly cannot speak English. When you do find an English-speaking one you get treated like royalty as they practice all their English skills while feeding you tons of snacks.

It was similar to traveling in the south of Thailand, the north of Laos and the west of Myanmar. Yes, minorities are treated as second-class citizens in all of those regions and there are heavy police/military presences.

I was referring to the regions where they are committing the interments. It's a huge region. I can firsthand tell you that there's a permanent handler assigned to anyone that even goes remotely close. Military-type-looking guys patrol the perimeter 24/7.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Any country with a Social Credit System is evil.

China's social credit system, by its wide definition, is a set of databases and initiatives that monitor and assess the trustworthiness of individuals, companies and government entities. Each entry is given a social credit score, with reward for those who have a high rating and punishments for those with low scores.

Do as we say and you can fly and have a job, oppose us and your life comes to a standstill.

Any government that will implement such things to their preferred citizens, just imagine what they will do to a group like the Uyghurs.

In the West the social credit system is:

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Especially the first two.

 

[Nicodeamus]

In the West the social credit system is:

Twitter
Facebook
IG
tiktok

Especially the first two.

We are all Pavlov’s dogs now

The psychological attack on the UK and the effects of it are now becoming clearer.

www.ukcolumn.org

 

[Brenden_E]

The US claims these are internment camps, China claims its vocational schools.
There are independent reports from escaped Uyghurs that they are internment camps.

We can see enormous facilities sprung up with satellite so we know they are there.

Easy way to solve the dispute, let independent journalists in and confirm these are schools. Yet China refuses and the entire area is cordoned off like a prison. What possible reason would they have to leave themselves open to such scrutiny if it was just a bunch of schools? They don't stop journalists from visiting vocational schools in other areas. It's patently obvious who is playing with the truth.

 

[rambo919]

The US claims these are internment camps, China claims its vocational schools.
There are independent reports from escaped Uyghurs that they are internment camps.

We can see enormous facilities sprung up with satellite so we know they are there.

Easy way to solve the dispute, let independent journalists in and confirm these are schools. Yet China refuses and the entire area is cordoned off like a prison. What possible reason would they have to leave themselves open to such scrutiny if it was just a bunch of schools? They don't stop journalists from visiting vocational schools in other areas. It's patently obvious who is playing with the truth.

Some bars are for keeping people out and some for keeping people in.... it all depends on which way the guard posts point.

 

[rietrot]

The US claims these are internment camps, China claims its vocational schools.
There are independent reports from escaped Uyghurs that they are internment camps.

We can see enormous facilities sprung up with satellite so we know they are there.

Easy way to solve the dispute, let independent journalists in and confirm these are schools. Yet China refuses and the entire area is cordoned off like a prison. What possible reason would they have to leave themselves open to such scrutiny if it was just a bunch of schools? They don't stop journalists from visiting vocational schools in other areas. It's patently obvious who is playing with the truth.

Calling them schools isn't completely incorrect. They do do some reeducation in there to teach the Uyghurs the right way to think.

 

[SoldierMan]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0792WB8WV/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0

He wrote that book for example.

What is wrong with that book?
It's conclusion of a pre-trib rapture is false but what does it have to do with his credibility of what's taking place in China?

 

[Wut]

What is wrong with that book?
It's conclusion of a pre-trib rapture is false but what does it have to do with his credibility of what's taking place in China?

Ummm, because it shows that he is a nutter and prone to being led by nonsense and fantasy (he literally stated that his research is led by God). Anyone who goes all-in believing a bronze age book cannot be taken seriously. Particularly a religion that sprung up after one woman's attempt to cover up an affair.

 

[rambo919]

Ummm, because it shows that he is a nutter and prone to being led by nonsense and fantasy (he literally stated that his research is led by God). Anyone who goes all-in believing a bronze age book cannot be taken seriously. Particularly a religion that sprung up after one woman's attempt to cover up an affair.

Ok so no real proof then?

 

[Nicodeamus]

What is wrong with that book?
It's conclusion of a pre-trib rapture is false but what does it have to do with his credibility of what's taking place in China?

The sources in his study is as bad as his literature on the rapture and yet the BBC, CNN, Fox and the US senators constantly refer to it to continue with their narrative. It's a fraud.

There is oppression in China, but the evidence for the genocide is just not there.

 

[rambo919]

The sources in his study is as bad as his literature on the rapture and yet the BBC, CNN, Fox and the US senators constantly refer to it to continue with their narrative. It's a fraud.

This is nothing more than a mott and bailey attack....

There is oppression in China, but the evidence for the genocide is just not there.

Agree to disagree

 

[w1z4rd]

Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[SoldierMan]

Ummm, because it shows that he is a nutter and prone to being led by nonsense and fantasy (he literally stated that his research is led by God). Anyone who goes all-in believing a bronze age book cannot be taken seriously. Particularly a religion that sprung up after one woman's attempt to cover up an affair.

Most of Western history is made up of people who believed in the Bible. Many of the sciences and laws were created by Christian's you nutter.

I suggest you get off your high horse before you fall off from lack of proper riding skills......

 

[s0lar]

Most of Western history is made up of people who believed in the Bible. Many of the sciences and laws were created by Christian's you nutter.

I suggest you get off your high horse before you fall off from lack of proper riding skills......

Common it’s plain as day he is a fanatical nutter.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

So let me get this straight, a group of mostly Muslim people are having issues in China and want the infidel Americans to help?
Either I dont understand what is happening(most likely) or its pretty ironic.