China detaining millions of Uyghurs? Serious problems with claims by US-backed NGO and far-right researcher ‘led by God’ against Beijing

[Wut]

So let me get this straight, a group of mostly Muslim people are having issues in China and want the infidel Americans to help?
Either I dont understand what is happening(most likely) or its pretty ironic.

And you've got a bunch of openly Muslim criticizing posters frothing at the mouths, because well it's China... The irony is strong in the thread...

 

[rietrot]

So let me get this straight, a group of mostly Muslim people are having issues in China and want the infidel Americans to help?
Either I dont understand what is happening(most likely) or its pretty ironic.

Or the rest of the world have just taken notice of Chinese human rights abuses and are conflicted because they still like cheap stuff.

The fact that they are muslim isn't important in this case. Unless if you are are a completely left wing nut job who doesn't believe in freedom of religion as a basic human right.

 

[Nicodeamus]

And you've got a bunch of openly Muslim criticizing posters frothing at the mouths, because well it's China... The irony is strong in the thread...

a yes, while obfuscating the fact that the USA gives weapons to the most fanatical Muslim country in the world (Saudi Arabia) that is using it in a war against Yemen (also a Muslim country).

so with respect to this whole Uighur story, I think a lot of people are taking in the new WMD story without questioning the propaganda that they are being fed. Oppression exists in China, but the evidence for genocide and sterilization is based on the study of a far right fanatic. To repeat that lie doesn't give the cause any credibility.

 

[Brenden_E]

And you've got a bunch of openly Muslim criticizing posters frothing at the mouths, because well it's China... The irony is strong in the thread...

It's healthy to criticize and have conversations about what you disagree with. That is...constructive behavior, no?
I certainly would never want Muslims to be sterilized or put in internment camps because I don't agree with their religion.

What do you think, because I don't agree with Islam I would welcome these atrocities in China - are you out of your mind?

 

[rambo919]

a yes, while obfuscating the fact that the USA gives weapons to the most fanatical Muslim country in the world (Saudi Arabia) that is using it in a war against Yemen (also a Muslim country).

so with respect to this whole Uighur story, I think a lot of people are taking in the new WMD story without questioning the propaganda that they are being fed. Oppression exists in China, but the evidence for genocide and sterilization is based on the study of a far right fanatic. To repeat that lie doesn't give the cause any credibility.

You still have not actually proven him to be either a Nazi or a fanatic though....

 

[Caliph]

a yes, while obfuscating the fact that the USA gives weapons to the most fanatical Muslim country in the world (Saudi Arabia) that is using it in a war against Yemen (also a Muslim country).

so with respect to this whole Uighur story, I think a lot of people are taking in the new WMD story without questioning the propaganda that they are being fed. Oppression exists in China, but the evidence for genocide and sterilization is based on the study of a far right fanatic. To repeat that lie doesn't give the cause any credibility.

The US has always sold weapons to both sides of any war. War is big business.

 

[rambo919]

The US has always sold weapons to both sides of any war. War is big business.

During the cold war Kissinger's companies also did business with both sides..... war is a racket.

 

[Caliph]

During the cold war Kissinger's companies also did business with both sides..... war is a racket.

Reminds of the movie Lord of War. Must watch.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Since at least February 2018, a German-born anthropologist named Adrian Zenz has alleged that China is persecuting the Uyghurs, a Turkic Muslim minority that inhabits Xinjiang, China’s westernmost autonomous region.

Zenz is a Senior Fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation (VOC). His work has been published at the neoconservative Jamestown Foundation and the Newlines Institute, which is a project of Fairfax University of America (formerly Virginia International University).

Zenz’s work is the foundation of myriad claims by the Western-aligned corporate press, the Trump and Biden administrations, and U.S.-backed NGOs that the Chinese Government is committing genocide against the Uyghurs.

Most notably, on his last day in office, then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo cited Zenz’s work to accuse the Chinese Government of “genocide” and “crimes against humanity” for its treatment of Uyghurs in Xinjiang. This charge included allegations of forced labor.

These allegations were embraced by the Biden administration, which then doubled down on targeted economic sanctions. The sanctions, titled the “Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act” (UFLPA) took effect on June 21, 2022. The Act creates a rebuttable presumption that all goods “mined, produced, or manufactured wholly or in part in Xinjiang or by an entity on the UFLPA Entity List are prohibited from U.S. importation” under federal law.

Much ink has already been spilled exposing Zenz’s credibility issues.

For instance, the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation is a champion of anti-Russian Cold Warriorism whose principal founders included former National Security Advisor and professed regime change architect Zbiegniew Brzezinski. Its second co-founder, Lev Dobriansky, was a close associate of Ukrainian fascist and WWII Nazi collaborator Yaroslav Stetsko.

Further, the Newlines Institute is infested with “former U.S. State Department officials, U.S. military advisors, intelligence professionals who previously worked for the ‘shadow CIA’ private spying firm, Stratfor, and a collection of interventionist ideologues.”

Lastly, the Newlines Institute is overseen by Fairfax University of America—a private, for-profit university whose accreditation was recommended for termination in 2019 after an audit found its curriculum to be “patently deficient,” noting concerns of “limited peer-to-peer and student-faculty interaction; failure of instructors to adhere to standards outlined in course syllabi; rampant plagiarism; graduate level courses lacking academic rigor; online courses that are not comparable in content to those offered in residence; and grade inflation.”

In February 2021, it was revealed, inter alia, that Zenz made a grave statistical error in his June 2020 paper: “Sterilizations, IUDs, and Mandatory Birth Control: The CCP’s Campaign to Suppress Birthrates in Xinjiang.” Zenz’s main claim was that in 2018, Xinjiang accounted for “80 percent of all net added IUD placements in China.” Zenz miscalculated this number by a factor of 10. In reality, Xinjiang only accounted for 8.7 percent.

Credibility and the 'Xinjiang Police Files' | The Libertarian Institute

Since at least February 2018, a German-born anthropologist named Adrian Zenz has alleged that China is persecuting the Uyghurs, a Turkic Muslim minority that inhabits Xinjiang, China’s westernmost autonomous region. Zenz is a Senior Fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation (VOC)...

libertarianinstitute.org

 

[saturnz]

still no pics of mass graves and dead bodies, what about mass migration?