[China] How organs are harvested from THOUSANDS every week for a 'kill to order' market - and why the world is powerless to stop it

Glock26

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If you have the money, you can get anything in China.
Have an acquaintance who has had TWO organ transplants in China. Cost a bundle. I believe that amount of money even gave him instant dual citizenship so that he was able to travel there, have the operation, and come back to SA. First one failed a year or 2 later, and he had a second one done.
 

Norrad

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If you have the money, you can get anything in China.
Have an acquaintance who has had TWO organ transplants in China. Cost a bundle. I believe that amount of money even gave him instant dual citizenship so that he was able to travel there, have the operation, and come back to SA. First one failed a year or 2 later, and he had a second one done.
There is no way to buy dual citizenship over there without actually living there for a long time on permanent residency or being directly related to a Chinese citizen... even if you have a boatload of money. Some executives in the company I worked for there tried it, no go even though they were all upper dollar millionaires.
 

Illegal Allien

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I thought that organs had a high rejection rate which is why only a few people get "matched" to a donor. Have the Chinese overcome such rejection?
 

Ponderer

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I thought that organs had a high rejection rate which is why only a few people get "matched" to a donor. Have the Chinese overcome such rejection?
Mmmmm - is that not what this thread is about?
How "conveniently/easily" an organ of an appropriate/matching donor becomes available after a booking for replacement surgery is made?
No waiting list.
 

ShaunSA

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I thought that organs had a high rejection rate which is why only a few people get "matched" to a donor. Have the Chinese overcome such rejection?

Yeah they are so advanced they sommer grab in a guy from the street and he/she/it's an instant match :cool:
 

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In June 2021, a group of U.N. independent experts expressed their concerns at allegations of organ harvesting carried out on minority groups including Falun Gong practitioners, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Muslims and Christians, in detention in China. According to the statement, the experts, including Mr. Fernand de Varennes, Special Rapporteur on minority issues; Mr. Ahmed Shaheed, Special Rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief; Mr. Nils Melzer, Special Rapporteur on torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, received “credible information that detainees from ethnic, linguistic or religious minorities may be forcibly subjected to blood tests and organ examinations such as ultrasound and x-rays, without their informed consent; while other prisoners are not required to undergo such examinations. The results of the examinations are reportedly registered in a database of living organ sources that facilitates organ allocation.”

This is not the first time that the U.N. has raised the issue of organ harvesting in China. Indeed, similar concerns were raised by the U.N. with the Chinese Government in 2006 and 2007, however, without any, or any adequate response.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelin...ut-organ-harvesting-in-china/?sh=54077a4d42dd

Several reports have recently surfaced about several problems with organ transplantation, such as organ trafficking, the sale and brokering of such organs, and the topic of this essay: the transplantation of organs from executed prisoners in China. Unfortunately, these transplantations have become more common because of an unfortunate application to healthcare of one of the laws of economics—supply and demand.

The establishment in 1984 of the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) in the USA, although it helped to organise and centralise a previously haphazard system of organ distribution, has unfortunately failed to change one fundamental problem with transplantation: there are not enough organs to go around. From May 31, 2004, 85 609 people were registered with UNOS as awaiting an organ transplantation. Of these, 58 201 were waiting for kidney transplantation. In the 10 years from 1990 to 1999, the total number of people registered with UNOS increased from 21 914 to 72 110, an increase of 230%. During the same period, the number of cadaveric donors increased from 4509 to 5822, an increase of only 29%.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(04)17631-9/fulltext
 

Zameside

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They have a program.... under Maoism.Morals are unheard of. Babylon has been re-born.
 
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