China Telecom said to block Skype

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China Telecom said to block Skype
Fri Sep 9, 2005 9:31 AM ET
By Doug Young

SHANGHAI, Sept 9 - China Telecom has started blocking access to a popular Internet telephone service that is threatening its long-distance revenue, according to local media reports and Internet postings.

China's largest fixed-line phone carrier recently began blocking access to service from Skype Technologies SA, a European-based Internet telecoms services provider, in the affluent southern city of Shenzhen near Hong Kong, according to the reports, including one in the Shanghai Daily.

They said China Telecom, whose broadband Internet service allows access to Skype, has plans to eventually block the service throughout its coverage area nationwide.

They also said the carrier has created a "black list" of people who use the service in Shenzhen, and threatened to fine anyone who tries to get around the new obstacles.

A China Telecom spokesman had no comment on the reports about the Shenzhen blockage, but gave a broader view.

"Under the current relevant laws and regulations of China, PC-to-phone services are strictly regulated and only China Telecom and (the nation's other fixed-line carrier) China Netcom are permitted to carry out some trials on a very limited basis," he said.

Skype service, which allows people to make calls from their PCs to regular phones, enables subscribers in China to dial to major Western markets in the United States and Europe for as little as 2 eurocents per minute (2.5 U.S. cents), compared with rates closer to $1 per minute from China Telecom.

China routinely blocks access to Web sites on politically sensitive subjects such as the banned Falun Gong spiritual movement and the 1989 crackdown at Tiananmen Square that left hundreds dead. But blockage of sites for purely economic reasons is much less common.

Tom Online, a Beijing-based provider of wireless value-added services that has a year-old relationship with Skype for Internet instant messaging services, said its product in China was still operational.

"The whole thing looks to me like a plot to make back the money China Telecom thinks they lose because of Skype," complained one user in Shenzhen, who said his access was blocked but his wife, also in Shenzhen, was able to access the system.

Other users in Shanghai said they were still able to access the system.

Long distance business is an important revenue source for both China Telecom and China Netcom, accounting for about 20 percent of China Telecom's total revenue last year.

Internet-based services like Skype are putting pressure on both companies to lower their long-distance tariffs, which have been coming down at a rate of about 12-15 percent annually in recent years, said BOC International analyst Alan Ng.

"Eventually (Internet-based phone services) will be a threat," he said. "Whether it's already a serious threat, I doubt it. But it will get even more popular, and certainly that is why China Telecom is very concerned."

U.S. Web auction giant EBay Inc. is currently in talks to buy Skype, a source familiar with the situation told Reuters on Thursday, amid concerns that the European company could crimp highly-profitable eBay's growth.

China Telecom shares were down 0.88 percent at HK$2.80 in Hong Kong on Friday. They are unchanged since the beginning of the year, trailing a 6 percent gain for the broader Hang Seng Index.

Investors are fretting about China Telecom's slowing growth, as they wait for the outcome of a highly anticipated industry restructuring expected to include the eventual awarding of third-generation (3G) mobile licenses.
There are days here where it feels like we are living in China as well as far as Skype is concerned.
 

doobiwan

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. . It also reminds you that there's always a better b@stard out there somewhere . .
 

antowan

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Phone companies better realise that their main business in the future (whether they like it or not) will be providing high speed data access to the public. The public will choose themselves what they want to do with the IP traffic they can generate, be it VOIP, video on demand etc.

Traditional telephony is basically the living dead at the moment and companies killing new, better, cheaper tech because they cannot find an angle of making as much profit as they did with old tech will pay the price in the future. Expecta customer backlash!

We are not the only country with a Dinosaur for a telco. Only problem is we have a friggen T-Rex as a telco! Feisty but not strong enough to beat the public i.e. us!
 

caroper

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"...only China Telecom and (the nation's other fixed-line carrier) China Netcom...."

Can anybody say SNO......
Poison Ivy is following the same model as her favorite comunist country, that is why she ignores comparissons with the western world. :(
 

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Of course, everyone forgets that China Telecoms charge R 90 (yes, 90 RAND) for a 10 megabit internet connection. They also forget to mention that you can legally buy IP phone cards for long distance calls.

Rest assured, there are no bigger ******** than these telkom ******.
 
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morebroadband

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Originally posted by Antowan -
Phone companies better realise that their main business in the future (whether they like it or not) will be providing high speed data access to the public. The public will choose themselves what they want to do with the IP traffic they can generate, be it VOIP, video on demand etc.
Could not have said it better.

One thing that no one seems to have picked up on is that Skype's calls are encrypted and cannot be listened in on. Skype have stated they will not open this to the authorities. The Chinese government (like ours) really likes to know what is going on in every household and community. I personally think this is why they are blocking Skype, and less so for loss of revenue.
 

munwaal

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munwaal said:
Of course, everyone forgets that China Telecoms charge R 90 (yes, 90 RAND) for a 10 megabit internet connection. They also forget to mention that you can legally buy IP phone cards for long distance calls.

Rest assured, there are no bigger ******** than these telkom ******.

It's just not the same with all those stars, BTTB..
 
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