Christianity - an in-depth discourse

Ponderer

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What is a "Christian", and exactly what is "Christianity".

"Christianity" is a particular faith/belief amongst many other faiths/beliefs.
The reason for this thread is to (deeply) explore this faith/belief so as to clearly define it - so as to remove misconceptions.

In order to proceed, the terms "Truth" and "Lie" need to be clearly defined.
"Truth" is empirical.
A "Lie" is something that is not "True".
Unlike "Truth", a "Lie" cannot exist on its own - a "Lie" needs "Truth" to exist.
A "Lie" is therefore a distortion of the "Truth".
Note that "all good lies" are almost exactly "the truth" - almost.
Its not the glaringly obvious lies that be dangerous, its the subtle ones that's gonna get you - its the very nature of Deceit.

Another term that needs to be clearly defined is "Religion".
"Religion" is a collective term for every/all types/kinds of faiths/beliefs, and does not necessarily imply the belief in a Deity (or Deities).
Examples of this would be "Buddhism", "Hinduism" and "Atheism".
Although some would argue that "Atheism" does not fall under the umbrella of "Religion", it most definitely does - "Atheism" is as much a faith/belief as any other faith/belief in that it is purely based on a belief - "Atheism" is not a non-belief, it is (by definition) an active belief.
One can even go so far as to say that everyone is "religious" in that everyone invariably "believes" certain things that cannot be scientifically proven nor disproven.

The term "Christianity" refers to a category/group of faiths/beliefs, and does not refer to a particular faith/belief - there are many different types/kinds of "Christianities".
Which of the various "Christianities" be actual/real/true "Christianity".

An actual/true/real Christian believes that everything in the Bible is The Truth.
Note that it does not imply that they fully/comprehensively grasp/understand everything in the Bible - its just that they somehow know it to be true.
The Bible is "controversial" in that it is understood (interpreted) differently by different people.
It should be borne in mind that the Bible cannot be understood to the liking of a person (or a particular group of people).
The onus is on you to interpret it correctly, and you had better get it right - be extremely careful to whom you "lend your ears" to.
Beware of Lies/Deception - just because some or other "Christian leader" says that the Bible says something does not mean that the Bible in fact says so.

A few mayor misconceptions be that God is democratic, humanoid, and a humanitarian - that He is "a nice guy" that is not unlike "Santa Clause".
Big mistake.
 
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Many people (including many "christian leaders") regard God (and the Bible) to be mythical - that it is something that is not quite true, but kinda true.
That it is something stupid people use to get by.
"Christian leaders" that hold this view is not a new thing - history is absolutely riddled with examples of deceived and deceiving religious leaders.
Exploitation/Politics/Money.

Actual/true/real Christianity says that God will require a reckoning of each of us - that each of us will be judged by Him according to His rules.
Each of us are actually busy writing an exam.
When you die, your exam is over.
If you pass your exam, you get to spend eternity in Heaven.
If you fail your exam, you get to spend eternity in Hell.
God is the Judge of all Judges, and His decision is final.

Consider the risk of ignoring this bit of information.
 

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Many people (including many "christian leaders") regard God (and the Bible) to be mythical - that it is something that is not quite true, but kinda true.
That it is something stupid people use to get by.
"Christian leaders" that hold this view is not a new thing - history is absolutely riddled with examples of deceived and deceiving religious leaders.
Exploitation/Politics/Money.

Actual/true/real Christianity says that God will require a reckoning of each of us - that each of us will be judged by Him according to His rules.
Each of us are actually busy writing an exam.
When you die, your exam is over.
If you pass your exam, you get to spend eternity in Heaven.
If you fail your exam, you get to spend eternity in Hell.
God is the Judge of all Judges, and His decision is final.

Consider the risk of ignoring this bit of information.
No praat jy net lekker stront.
 

Aquila ka Hecate

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You unable or unwilling to distinguish between religion and belief?

(Is there actually a point to this thread other than to be a continuation of the other threads? Really just looks like an excuse to continue what you were doing in yet another place)
Evangelising Christianity?
 

Ponderer

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You unable or unwilling to distinguish between religion and belief?

(Is there actually a point to this thread other than to be a continuation of the other threads?)
Please explain why you state that I am unable to distinguish between religion and belief.
 

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Actual/true/real Christianity says that God will require a reckoning of each of us - that each of us will be judged by Him according to His rules.
Each of us are actually busy writing an exam.
When you die, your exam is over.
If you pass your exam, you get to spend eternity in Heaven.
If you fail your exam, you get to spend eternity in Hell.
God is the Judge of all Judges, and His decision is final.


Consider the risk of ignoring this bit of information.
So... god is 'owner' of hell, he decides who goes where... satan just works for him, head of department so to speak, just another employee doing the bosses bidding :whistling:
 

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"Religion" is a collective term for every/all types/kinds of faiths/beliefs, and does not necessarily imply the belief in a Deity (or Deities).
Religion is organized belief

An actual/true/real Christian believes that everything in the Bible is The Truth.
No. The bible was compiled and translated over centuries by churches.

That's like saying everything in school is truth. School is just organized education.
 

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So... god is 'owner' of hell, he decides who goes where... satan just works for him, head of department so to speak, just another employee doing the bosses bidding :whistling:
God indeed decides who goes where - Heaven or Hell.
Satan does not work for God.
Satan made his choice.
We humans are given the opportunity to do likewise - it is wise to choose well.
 

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God indeed decides who goes where - Heaven or Hell.
Satan does not work for God.
Satan made his choice.
We humans are given the opportunity to do likewise - it is wise to choose well.
Let me guess.....you believe Satan and Lucifer are the same being?
 

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God indeed decides who goes where - Heaven or Hell.
Satan does not work for God.
Satan made his choice.
We humans are given the opportunity to do likewise - it is wise to choose well.
So, god 'creates you' the way you are, and then punishes you for all eternity for being exactly the way he created you... :thumbsup: under some 'well, it was your choice' copout bs
 
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