Christmas maths question backlash

[Sinbad]

I have a degree with it.

...and you?

I'm with mike here. Your arguments do not speak to a fundamental understanding of the definition of probability.
And yes I passed a stats and probability module through unisa last year.
Here's the study guide. The piece you're looking for is the line stating "a probability outcome of 1 implies that it is a certain outcome"

Q.E.D.

 

[DreamKing]

Genetic algorithm? anyone?

 

[DreamKing]

I'm with mike here. Your arguments do not speak to a fundamental understanding of the definition of probability.
And yes I passed a stats and probability module through unisa last year. View attachment 47043
Here's the study guide. The piece you're looking for is the line stating "a probability outcome of 1 implies that it is a certain outcome"

Q.E.D.

I told you already, I said you are not "wrong" but it is "unnecessary". ok?

do you understand what your problem is? you are applying an inappropriate method to solve "that problem".

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Oh dear, here comes the e-peen of the keyboard warrior.

 

[Mila]

I just heard on the radio we are the second worst in math literacy in the world, just above Yemen.

 

[Sinbad]

I told you already, I said you are not "wrong" but it is "unnecessary". ok?

do you understand what your problem is? you are applying an inappropriate method to solve "that problem".

Let's see.

did you read this?????

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if it does not have "uncertainty", then how that can be "certainty ".

or you can't read or something?

probability must be in the situation of uncertainty then you may apply probability theory. otherwise => NO

so that is the reason why it is NOT a probability question.

GOT IT?

Nope, that's you saying I'm wrong and that probability can only occur in the situation of uncertainty. Which is incorrect.

Oh my GOD!!!!!

is you mother a woman?
a) certainty,
b) may be,
c) you don't know.

you think it is a probability question?


PS: {"Christmas = 25th";"Christmas != 25th"} - which is a collection of mutually exclusive events. your example is meaningless.

OK, possible rolls of a dice:
{1,2,3,4,5,6}
Also mutually exclusive events, and you think dice rolls are outside the field of probability? You should give your degree back. Mutually exclusive events are part of the very definition of probability theory:
To qualify as a probability distribution, the assignment of values must satisfy the requirement that if you look at a collection of mutually exclusive events (events that contain no common results, e.g., the events {1,6}, {3}, and {2,4} are all mutually exclusive), the probability that at least one of the events will occur is given by the sum of the probabilities of all the individual events.[5]

it is absolutely useless and waste of time to apply probability theory to any well known fact.

@Sinbad, your problem is to set up a probability question to find out whether or not "1 + 1 = 2", it is completely waste of time. It is NOT necessary and everyone knows the answer "your mother is a woman." (may be you want to tell I am wrong. )

understand?

Adding 0 to anything is also useless and a complete waste of time. As is multiplying anything by 1. However, these are still IMPORTANT MATHEMATICAL CONCEPTS to understand, and kids are taught them, even though they have no practical application. They are also tested on them. As they were tested on something FUNDAMENTAL here.

 

[Moosedrool]

You guys do realise the answer marked correctly to this question was: "certain"

Whenever someone asks you a question like that do you guys really think: "uhm this has a probability of 1 so meaning yes certainly."

Girl asks you if you want to shag, (lil pause) "Certainly!"

Common sense is lost it seems...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I told you already, I said you are not "wrong" but it is "unnecessary". ok?

do you understand what your problem is? you are applying an inappropriate method to solve "that problem".

It's irrelevant whether it's unnecessary or not. It's still a part of probability theory.

 

[DreamKing]

Let's see.





Nope, that's you saying I'm wrong and that probability can only occur in the situation of uncertainty. Which is incorrect.



OK, possible rolls of a dice:
{1,2,3,4,5,6}
Also mutually exclusive events, and you think dice rolls are outside the field of probability? You should give your degree back. Mutually exclusive events are part of the very definition of probability theory:
To qualify as a probability distribution, the assignment of values must satisfy the requirement that if you look at a collection of mutually exclusive events (events that contain no common results, e.g., the events {1,6}, {3}, and {2,4} are all mutually exclusive), the probability that at least one of the events will occur is given by the sum of the probabilities of all the individual events.[5]



Adding 0 to anything is also useless and a complete waste of time. As is multiplying anything by 1. However, these are still IMPORTANT MATHEMATICAL CONCEPTS to understand, and kids are taught them, even though they have no practical application. They are also tested on them. As they were tested on something FUNDAMENTAL here.

It's irrelevant whether it's unnecessary or not. It's still a part of probability theory.

for example:
x,y :integer, u, v : complex

u = x + yi
v = x - yi

if x = 1, y = 0, then u = v = 1

so does that mean u , v : integer?

another example:
as defined above

u = 1 + 0i is correct or u = 1 is correct?

by definition, u : complex, you should write u = 1 + 0i, but u = 1 is also correct. it is because integer is a subset of complex number.

=> if you want to write "1", will you write "1 + 0i"? that is the reason why when you are defining something with no "probability" ie P(z) = 1, it is no reason to redefine again the probability is 100%

=> when you insist to apply probability theory it is "unnecessary" and "inappropriate".

=> that is the reason why "xmas day is on 25th Dec" is NOT a probability question.

 

[Albereth]

I just heard on the radio we are the second worst in math literacy in the world, just above Jemen.

Seems our geography sucks too.

 

[Mila]

Seems our geography sucks too.

Mine or theirs?

 

[saksakgp]

I like these maths lit threads. They always have divided views about simple things. It shows that maths lit is really needed.

 

[Albereth]

Mine or theirs?

It's Yemen, my dear.

 

[Mila]

It's Yemen, my dear.

Man!!! I could never spell


Thanx.

( fixed )

 

[Azbubu]

Man!!! I could never spell


Thanx.

( fixed )

You're Afrikaans. It's fine. Die hoe yulle dit down

 

[Mila]

You're Afrikaans. It's fine. Die hoe yulle dit down

Same thing different name.

I know I irritate the grammar nazi's ... But I promise that I do try!!


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