City of Johannesburg said it implemented load reduction to prevent grid from collapsing

They decided to include an entire city :p.
It's Durban Street Substation, it's in the South of JHB. Also the location of a 50mw OCGT
I was wondering because we don't have that high tech stuff here, just spinny disk meters.
 
seems they just unbundled load shedding and the result is called load reduction. :p

had someone who moves in government circles tell me they just shifted loadshedding to the municipal level. something about once the municipal area runs out of their allotted power they get switched off. was concerned its only a matter of time before its in cpt.

whatever.

call it what you want or spin like you want.

power gets switched off because it cannot be supplied.
 
seems they just unbundled load shedding and the result is called load reduction.

had someone who moves in government circles tell me they just shifted loadshedding to the municipal level. something about once the municipal area runs out of their allotted power they get switched off. was concerned its only a matter of time before its in cpt.

whatever.

call it what you want or spin like you want.

power gets switched off because it cannot be supplied.
Bwahahahahahaha wow that person moving in government circles is probably just the janitor.
Firstly read what load reduction is and why it's done, plus it's not the whole of jhb it's high density areas with high illegal connections and it's been done for years.
But as usual the "journalists" here don't bother doing research as they know people just read the headlines and make up their own stories.
 
seems they just unbundled load shedding and the result is called load reduction. :p

had someone who moves in government circles tell me they just shifted loadshedding to the municipal level. something about once the municipal area runs out of their allotted power they get switched off. was concerned its only a matter of time before its in cpt.

whatever.

call it what you want or spin like you want.

power gets switched off because it cannot be supplied.
Legendary tales, we should create a thread about thus thing in off topic, where everyone will tell their story from their friend who is high up in government circles, it would be a legendary thread.
 
Legendary tales, we should create a thread about thus thing in off topic, where everyone will tell their story from their friend who is high up in government circles, it would be a legendary thread.
He never said high up, just moving in...
 
Bwahahahahahaha wow that person moving in government circles is probably just the janitor.
Firstly read what load reduction is and why it's done, plus it's not the whole of jhb it's high density areas with high illegal connections and it's been done for years.
But as usual the "journalists" here don't bother doing research as they know people just read the headlines and make up their own stories.

alrighty then.

has load reduction changed from what it was?


not that the info from 2020 seems to have worked out as planned. wasnt de ruyter in charge then?


those areas you listed, they get their power cut during those times. correct?


load shedding is "national". reducing power on a national level via scheduled cuts. correct?

load reduction is area specific. reducing power within a smaller area via scheduled cuts. correct?

load limiting reduces select customer capacity to 10 amps, down from 40/60/80Amps. correct?

load curtailment is when eskom directly asks large users to reduce their use. correct?


all of which reduces the demand on eskom. because it cannot keep up.


what ever reason is given for not being able to provide power, does not change the fact that it cannot be provided.


lots of window dressing for ineptitude. im interested to see how they deal with all the illegal connections.
 
Legendary tales, we should create a thread about thus thing in off topic, where everyone will tell their story from their friend who is high up in government circles, it would be a legendary thread.

a lot of people in government dont know their behind from their head. majority seem to speak from the wrong end.

doesnt mean what i heard was correct, or that i believe them. the person is not involved in any of these processes pertaining to this discussion.
 
alrighty then.

has load reduction changed from what it was?


not that the info from 2020 seems to have worked out as planned. wasnt de ruyter in charge then?


those areas you listed, they get their power cut during those times. correct?


load shedding is "national". reducing power on a national level via scheduled cuts. correct?

load reduction is area specific. reducing power within a smaller area via scheduled cuts. correct?

load limiting reduces select customer capacity to 10 amps, down from 40/60/80Amps. correct?

load curtailment is when eskom directly asks large users to reduce their use. correct?


all of which reduces the demand on eskom. because it cannot keep up.


what ever reason is given for not being able to provide power, does not change the fact that it cannot be provided.


lots of window dressing for ineptitude. im interested to see how they deal with all the illegal connections.
Okay so you read that and what parts are you failing to understand?
Load shedding is done by Eskom when it cannot provide sufficient power nationally.
Load reduction is done on a localized grid to prevent costly damage to the infrastructure, normally it is done in areas of high illegal connections. It's got nothing to do with not being able to supply power to anywhere, it's about reducing the damage that those overloaded areas can do.
Now they could go and put in a very expensive transformer and all it's sundries to ensure that they don't overload, but that costs money and they won't recoup costs.
Also what does Andre de Ruyter have to do with Load reduction at a City Power level? Cause you linked Eskom Load reduction which they presently aren't doing.
City power doing Load reduction is to protect their equipment, it's got nothing to do with Eskom or supply from Eskom.
 
a lot of people in government dont know their behind from their head. majority seem to speak from the wrong end.

doesnt mean what i heard was correct, or that i believe them. the person is not involved in any of these processes pertaining to this discussion.
So you mentioned it why?
 
a lot of people in government dont know their behind from their head. majority seem to speak from the wrong end.

doesnt mean what i heard was correct, or that i believe them. the person is not involved in any of these processes pertaining to this discussion.
Almost like coming here and telling us some hobo who stays outside the gate of Megawatt Park has told you things about loadshedding that he heard from someone who works there when they gave them their lunch sandwich.

That's why I think a special thread would be nice, the information might not be useful but it can still be entertaining, which would go a long way in lifting the spirits of the miserable people on MyBb, win win.
 
Why would a DA municipality implement the ANC's disguised loadshedding? To me it looks like a good opportunity to for them to show the DA difference.

Or it because of the GNU?
 
Almost like coming here and telling us some hobo who stays outside the gate of Megawatt Park has told you things about loadshedding that he heard from someone who works there when they gave them their lunch sandwich.

That's why I think a special thread would be nice, the information might not be useful but it can still be entertaining, which would go a long way in lifting the spirits of the miserable people on MyBb, win win.

you could be some hobo with a stolen phone, whats the difference....
 
Okay so you read that and what parts are you failing to understand?
Load shedding is done by Eskom when it cannot provide sufficient power nationally.
Load reduction is done on a localized grid to prevent costly damage to the infrastructure, normally it is done in areas of high illegal connections. It's got nothing to do with not being able to supply power to anywhere, it's about reducing the damage that those overloaded areas can do.
Now they could go and put in a very expensive transformer and all it's sundries to ensure that they don't overload, but that costs money and they won't recoup costs.
Also what does Andre de Ruyter have to do with Load reduction at a City Power level? Cause you linked Eskom Load reduction which they presently aren't doing.
City power doing Load reduction is to protect their equipment, it's got nothing to do with Eskom or supply from Eskom.
So instead they keep giving it away for free and making us pay for it with R1000 access fee?
 
So instead they keep giving it away for free and making us pay for it with R1000 access fee?
For those that pay, you could go illegal and have load reduction plus you're in dbn they don't do that there
 
Okay so you read that and what parts are you failing to understand?
Load shedding is done by Eskom when it cannot provide sufficient power nationally.
Load reduction is done on a localized grid to prevent costly damage to the infrastructure, normally it is done in areas of high illegal connections. It's got nothing to do with not being able to supply power to anywhere, it's about reducing the damage that those overloaded areas can do.
Now they could go and put in a very expensive transformer and all it's sundries to ensure that they don't overload, but that costs money and they won't recoup costs.
Also what does Andre de Ruyter have to do with Load reduction at a City Power level? Cause you linked Eskom Load reduction which they presently aren't doing.
City power doing Load reduction is to protect their equipment, it's got nothing to do with Eskom or supply from Eskom.

that eskom pdf i linked explains pretty much what you have just said. same reasons given. same equipment mentioned. similar schedules. did you read it? seems like an idea de ruyter initially brought to the table.


anyway, im pretty skeptical of the gov and its organisations and it has become clear that they will do and say anything to save face or pass the buck.

one day the overloaded infrastructure was "still fine", the next day (and after elections mind you) all these areas are now at risk.

illegally connected areas should have been disconnected long before load shedding / reduction was an idea.
 
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