Climate change: New Zealand's plan to tax cow and sheep burps

Cosmik Debris

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Benedict A55h0le said:
It`s the new age, you clearly are not an Aquarius.
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The ancients who came up with the idea of those astrological ages and their attributes were unaware of the Earth's precession and we are now actually in the age of Pisces and not Aquarius as they thought we would be...
 
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rh1 said:
Thats a no for me. Will continue eating beef, lamb and chicken. Fish might be a problem in the future though.
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Its not for most... they now have a new plan to phase it in, indoctrinate the kids, when they're older and we're all dead it'll be standard on the shelves
www.dailymail.co.uk

Scientists plan to feed children insects to help make the UK greener

Scientists plan to feed primary school pupils in Wales edible insects like crickets and mealworms. Cardiff University and UWE researchers hope to educate on their environmental benefits.
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They want to ban farming to encourage people to get their meat and milk from the grocery stores.
 
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It seems increasingly clear that the Anglosphere, after attaining global dominance in the 19th and 20th centuries, is set on auto-aborting. The process of decivilisation has been picking up pace over the past few decades. This loopy move is but one more step on the way to self-destruction.
 
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SO for all the so-called experts on NZ, please tell us what is the population growth in NZ? and has anyone bothered to check on the negative effect on their economy, should farmers cut back on sheep and cows.
 
Benedict A55h0le

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Cosmik Debris said:
The ancients who came up with the idea of those astrological ages and their attributes were unaware of the Earth's precession and we are now actually in the age of Pisces and not Aquarius as they thought we would be...
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That is false information, as previously stated. The stars can not lie.
 
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I imagine there is an upper limit to how many people they can convince to care about this stuff, and that limit is probably lower than the level needed to achieve their goals, so i don't see this progressing beyond temporary excursions into virtue signal naivete that will get rolled back in time.

To me the only real way to get their agenda implemented is through innovation and the free market. They need to invent better and cheaper products to solve for every evil they list as destroying the environment and consumers will embrace them as superior and will move over en masse. If you don't like cow farts, as hard as it is, invent fake meat that's better tasting and cheaper than real meat. Anything short of that will not breach a fairly low limit of interest by a select few who care about this stuff. Artificially inflating the price of meat through taxes isn't going to create meaningful lasting change if that's their goal. Soon the loss of competitiveness of their cash cow will render the idea as kind of foolish to begin with once the economic impact becomes clear or a rogue competitor choosing not the comply with the agenda wins the battle.

Don't like plastics? Then invent something that's cheaper and better that degrades quickly as it finds it's way into the ocean or landfills. Don't like Ice vehicles? Invent superior electric ones, and then invent a cheaper energy generation alternative and batteries that last 50 years so the manufacturing damage to the environment is limited. Don't like coal and it's effects? Well who cares because once fusion or something similar is figured out in a couple decades they can deploy carbon scrubbers the world over and suck carbon out of the atmosphere with that cheap power.

The point of that last paragraph is just to say that i imagine innovators will solve the problem long before virtue signalers busying themselves with a vigorous shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic will. Innovators will do their thing and the iceberg will lose and the ship will continue on it's journey.

Follow the money may be a cynical and lazy idea some of the time and yet most of the time it explains so much when it comes to the next greeny policy idea.

Stop worrying and enjoy the ride.
 
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Zyzzyva said:
I imagine there is an upper limit to how many people they can convince to care about this stuff, and that limit is probably lower than the level needed to achieve their goals, so i don't see this progressing beyond temporary excursions into virtue signal naivete that will get rolled back in time.

To me the only real way to get their agenda implemented is through innovation and the free market. They need to invent better and cheaper products to solve for every evil they list as destroying the environment and consumers will embrace them as superior and will move over en masse. If you don't like cow farts, as hard as it is, invent fake meat that's better tasting and cheaper than real meat. Anything short of that will not breach a fairly low limit of interest by a select few who care about this stuff. Artificially inflating the price of meat through taxes isn't going to create meaningful lasting change if that's their goal. Soon the loss of competitiveness of their cash cow will render the idea as kind of foolish to begin with once the economic impact becomes clear or a rogue competitor choosing not the comply with the agenda wins the battle.

Don't like plastics? Then invent something that's cheaper and better that degrades quickly as it finds it's way into the ocean or landfills. Don't like Ice vehicles? Invent superior electric ones, and then invent a cheaper energy generation alternative and batteries that last 50 years so the manufacturing damage to the environment is limited. Don't like coal and it's effects? Well who cares because once fusion or something similar is figured out in a couple decades they can deploy carbon scrubbers the world over with that cheap power and suck carbon out of the atmosphere.

The point of that last paragraph is just to say that i imagine innovators will solve the problem long before virtue signalers busying themselves with a vigorous shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic will. Innovators will do their thing and the iceberg will lose and the ship will continue on it's journey.

Follow the money may be a cynical and lazy idea some of the time and yet most of the time it explains so much when it comes to the next greeny policy idea.

Stop worrying and enjoy the ride.
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The whole point of the tax is to promote this innovation, they might be funding this innovation with this tax. Some governments don`t just tax so that they can steal.
 
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