Climate change: New Zealand's plan to tax cow and sheep burps

[Zyzzyva]

The whole point of the tax is to promote this innovation, they might be funding this innovation with this tax. Some governments don`t just tax so that they can steal.

The free market is already doing it, there is no need to put a drag on the productive economy while the free market discovers the real solutions. Non expert virtue signalling politicians vying for the next vote are generally terrible capital allocators.

But to argue your point.

The one time government money is perhaps needed is on those extremely capital intensive multi decade mega projects like fusion that the free market battles to make a business case for. In most cases governments just need to get out of the way instead of trying to hinder the productive economy. Sin taxes may feel like doing something but they may just be moving deck chairs around while the actual innovators solve the underlying issues. Government money can go toward research in areas that the free market has underfunded.

If governments really want to make a difference, stop the protection of bad entrenched ideas and outdated businesses through a mutually beneficial protection of those dinosaures through laws designed to protect the status quo and keep political parties well funded.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

The free market is already doing it, there is no need to put a drag on the productive economy while the free market discovers the real solutions. Non expert virtue signalling politicians vying for the next vote are generally terrible capital allocators.

But to argue your point.

The one time government money is perhaps needed is on those extremely capital intensive multi decade mega projects like fusion that the free market battles to make a business case for. In most cases governments just need to get out of the way instead of trying to hinder the productive economy. Sin taxes may feel like doing something but they may just be moving deck chairs around while the actual innovators solve the underlying issues. Government money can go toward research in areas that the free market has underfunded.

If governments really want to make a difference, stop the protection of bad entrenched ideas and outdated businesses through a mutually beneficial protection of those dinosaures through laws designed to protect the status quo and keep political parties well funded.

The free market is failing at it. Yes, governments protect the status quo, but at least they are trying something. The existing concept of central governance needs to change and that must be done by ordinary people. Change is happening too slow, its good to place any handbrake on unsustainability.

 

[Grant]

Soon people will be charged for using oxygen, sun and the amount of shat you have per day.

It about time.
There are way too many oxygen thieves around

 

[Johnatan56]

This comes off as odd to me, cows and sheep are part of a cycle, it's already been sorted.

Where Do Methane Emissions Come From? — Global Food Justice Alliance

Getting worried about methane production from any biological process is reductionistic because methane produced via biological process is part of a system, provides no net inputs to the system, and perhaps most importantly, is caused by living organisms!

www.globalfoodjustice.org

 

[rietrot]

It is moronic to produce food in an unsustainable way, hence the tax.

Grazing animals is the most sustainable way.

 

[rietrot]

There is more then enough food en the world for everybody that is not the problem... The problem is how we waste food and how food gets handled and used. That issue lies way higher up and won't get solved any time soon.

That's also incorrect.

The problem is
1. uselessness of those starving. They don't produce anything of value that can be traded for food.
2. Logistical, it takes some effort and money to get the abundance of extra food we have to them.
3. Political (usually of the communist variety) that just fsck with markets and prices and create artificial shortages.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

That is false information, as previously stated. The stars can not lie.

They don't. But incomplete information by the ancients led to incorrect conclusions. Sorry to rain on your parade.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

They don't. But incomplete information by the ancients led to incorrect conclusions. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Sorry to rain on yours. I read that article you sent, and the debate continues on what the exact date is. That article is just another opinion of many. Maybe I should start a poll to ask people if they think the world has changed in the last 5 years? What is astounding is just how quickly things have changed and are still changing.

 

[RedViking]

SO for all the so-called experts on NZ, please tell us what is the population growth in NZ? and has anyone bothered to check on the negative effect on their economy, should farmers cut back on sheep and cows.

I take it when you say "so-called" experts, you see yourself as the "real" expert? Or are you hoping we have the NZ government making these ridiculous decisions posting here why they are nuts in their heads?

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

McKenna calls this end point “the Singularity”, and dates it to precisely the Winter’s Solstice on the morning of December 21st, 2012 C.E.. This date is the end of the Zodiacal Age of Pisces, and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius, meaning that the sun, from the perspective of those living in the Northern Hemisphere, appears to be transiting from the vicinity of the Pisces constellation in the sky towards the vicinity of the Aquarius constellation.

Terence McKenna, the Timewave Zero Novelty Calendar, and 2012

Terence McKenna (1946-2000) Terence McKenna (1946-2000) was an American author and ethnobotanist. He and his younger brother ...

aquarianagrarian.blogspot.com

 

[MagNorthDigital]

Thanks I was looking for this earlier.
It's going to take us while to get back to normal...

 

[rh1]

Started with cows farting is bad, so we have to tax, ending with Zodiac tables.

 

[MagNorthDigital]

Started with cows farting is bad, so we have to tax, ending with Zodiac tables.

Back on topic then...

Here is an American cherry showing you how to "braai" a piece of cow... badly

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Started with cows farting is bad, so we have to tax, ending with Zodiac tables.

It is completely related, so many crazy things happening that does not make sense unless you are aware of the change in the Zodiac.

 

[DTBA]

That's also incorrect.

The problem is
1. uselessness of those starving. They don't produce anything of value that can be traded for food.
2. Logistical, it takes some effort and money to get the abundance of extra food we have to them.
3. Political (usually of the communist variety) that just fsck with markets and prices and create artificial shortages.

Yea, the point I kinda tried to make is we produce about 1.5x the food we need to feed everybody. We have many underlying issues like you pointed out. The food it self is there.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Sorry to rain on yours. I read that article you sent, and the debate continues on what the exact date is. That article is just another opinion of many. Maybe I should start a poll to ask people if they think the world has changed in the last 5 years? What is astounding is just how quickly things have changed and are still changing.

Would you like the phone number of the Sutherland astronomical observatory? You can then discuss astrology with an astronomer who you will also dismiss because what they tell you doesn't suit what you desperately want to believe.

 

[access]

cant seem to find a set number for methane from livestock globally. seen ranges from 3% to 50% ... the more "vegan" the site looks the higher that number.. lol

but hey, feed them seaweed..

Cows Burp 82% Less Methane If You Feed Them Seaweed: Report

Beef production is a leading cause of climate change.

www.globalcitizen.org

 

[Grant]

???
Next up - hippie chicks with unshaven under arms wearing tie-dyed skirts making predictions by staring at a dream catcher

 

[DarthCat]

I don't believe in this zodiac nonsense