Ulysses Everett McGill
- Aug 26, 2011
I'm sure China can build them a lot quicker (and probably cheaper), by skipping a lot of safety measures. That's a far cry from what is possible elsewhere. And compared to renewables that are reliably delivered everywhere, for cheaper.I'd be very curious as to how quickly the Chinese are able to install them, look to them establishing a bench marks
Nope.alloytoo said:Realistically 10-15 years with reducing performance as they grow older.
Good thing we've developed nifty storage devices, which are improving and becoming cheaper at an exponential rate.alloytoo said:capacity is not the same as production and wind farms produce about 35% of their capacity on a good day then global supply is about 0%.
Given that wind can never be "on demand" and that it requires on demand (normally fossil fuel powered) generation to back it for when the wind stops. Wind is only good for pumping water off the grid and I'm not so sure about that.
They actually kill a lot fewer than is often touted, and they kill fewer than nuclear plants.alloytoo said:You mean aside from the thousands of birds and bats they kill, the eyesore they create? The fossil fuels required to actually make them practical.
And something you consider an 'eyesore' isn't an "environmental nightmare".
Sure. But you can use them where they are feasible, as part of a mix.alloytoo said:For the most part hydro schemes require water and a valley to dam, these are not always available where you need the power.
Geothermal plants also require water and can be subject to over exploitation if everyone is attempting to same resource, the water table drops and the steam required for generation is no longer available.
Energy derived from biological material that already exists and is created as the byproduct of other processes that already happen and will continue to happen.alloytoo said:Bioenergy is touted as a zero carbon energy source because you're burning material which can be regrown?
Or you can plough money into certainties like renewables, and take advantage of the huge economic opportunity it presents.alloytoo said:A low level of certainty, a high degree of uncertainty.
it's more cost effective to plough money into certainties like vaccinations (or nuclear power plants).