Climate change: World's hottest day since records began

Paulsie said:
Cough, cough

www.foxnews.com

Government mismanagement, not climate change, is to blame for California's destructive wildfires

Politicians are trying to pin California's wildfires on climate change, instead of the government policies that are contributing to them.
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Think you missed the little red thing at the top that says "opinion".

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Also, nowhere in that article does it say this:
Paulsie said:
The biggest ones were during the Democratic party governance, where political correctness and "ecology" is more important than forest control (tree maintenence) and fire breaks (because of CO2).

Meanwhile budgets are spent on creating "refuge" for gay people because Trump is coming!!!
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So dunno why you would link to it.
 
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Cray said:
Former republican representative from California blames the fires on the current Democratic government in a Fox News opinion piece. Not sure how many more red flags for bias you could get.
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Never ceases to amaze how quickly these guys will jump on whatever narrative is fed to them by Rupert Murdoch.

Reminds me of old grannies sharing AI generated pictures on whatsapp thinking they are real.
 
Cray said:
Former republican representative from California blames the fires on the current Democratic government in a Fox News opinion piece. Not sure how many more red flags for bias you could get.
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Yes it's all right wing, yet in parliaments of other countries its called the whip. It's meant to hold the government accountable.

Opposition = bias. Opinion = not factual. Climate modeling = fact. Different opinion = not a scientist. A scientist = not the right one. How predictable!!

But hey, I'm sure the they/them population of LA will be pleased that money was well spent on rainbow flags, instead of maintaining water reservoirs.
 
Paulsie said:
Cough, cough

www.foxnews.com

Government mismanagement, not climate change, is to blame for California's destructive wildfires

Politicians are trying to pin California's wildfires on climate change, instead of the government policies that are contributing to them.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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It's not just mismanagement.
Ignoring the role of climate change regarding the intensity (and frequency increase) of these things and the fact that this was predicted is idiotic.

yaleclimateconnections.org

The role of climate change in the catastrophic 2025 Los Angeles fires » Yale Climate Connections

Summer dry seasons are extending into winter, intensifying the impacts of Santa Ana winds.
yaleclimateconnections.org yaleclimateconnections.org

What got to me is that the moment this happened almost every major outlet and prominent social media channel was quick to double down immediately on how this disaster has nothing to do with climate change...

The irony is that the lefty idiots in charge should have doubled down on preventative measures given the climate change factor.

www.drought.gov

Study Finds Climate Change to Blame For Record-Breaking California Wildfires | August 8, 2023 | Drought.gov

In a new NIDIS-funded study in Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, an international group of researchers created a climate-driven model of summer burned area evolution in California and combined it with natural and historical climate simulations to assess the importance of human-caused...
www.drought.gov www.drought.gov

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Just another utter clusterf**k in the US that shows how toxic politics is in dealing with reality.
Good luck to them.

Have fun trying to fight something like this, even if you have adequate water suppression and "cleaned" up the forests, brushes etc.

 
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Paulsie said:
Yes it's all right wing, yet in parliaments of other countries its called the whip. It's meant to hold the government accountable.

Opposition = bias. Opinion = not factual. Climate modeling = fact. Different opinion = not a scientist. A scientist = not the right one. How predictable!!
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Fair enough, just one slight problem, this particular politician moved to Texas in 2011, 14 years ago. So do you think he has an accurate read on how things currently are in California?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_DeVore
 
A landmark compressed air energy storage (CAES) power station utilizing two underground salt caverns in Yingcheng City, central China’s Hubei Province, was successfully connected to the grid at full capacity on Thursday, marking the official commencement of its commercial operations.

The “Energy Storage No. 1” project utilizes the caverns of an abandoned salt mine, reaching up to 600 meters of depth, as its gas storage facility. This allows for a gas storage volume of nearly 700,000 cubic meters, translating into a single unit power output of up to 300 MW and a storage capacity of 1,500 MWh. The system conversion efficiency is about 70%. It can store energy for eight hours and release energy for five hours every day, and generate about 500 GWh of electricity annually.

www.pv-magazine.com

World’s largest compressed air energy storage facility commences full operation in China

A 300 MW compressed air energy storage (CAES) power station utilizing two underground salt caverns in central China’s Hubei Province was successfully connected to the grid at full capacity, making it the largest operating project of the kind in the world.
www.pv-magazine.com www.pv-magazine.com
 
Cray said:
Fair enough, just one slight problem, this particular politician moved to Texas in 2011, 14 years ago. So do you think he has an accurate read on how things currently are in California?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_DeVore
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I would say he does. Considering that the US politics (presidential and otherwise) are fought state-by-state.

Yes, he may be biased, but is he lying?
 
Paulsie said:
I would say he does. Considering that the US politics (presidential and otherwise) are fought state-by-state.

Yes, he may be biased, but is he lying?
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Lying, probably not, mistaken, very possibly.
 
Cray said:
Lying, probably not, mistaken, very possibly.
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Either he's lying, he's correct or you just assume he's being critical because he's a Republican.

Which is it?

If the latter, does your opinion trump mine?
 
RaptorSA said:
It's not just mismanagement.
Ignoring the role of climate change regarding the intensity (and frequency increase) of these things and the fact that this was predicted is idiotic.
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RaptorSA said:
The irony is that the lefty idiots in charge should have doubled down on preventative measures given the climate change factor.
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I agree with you here. California is a well know area with high VPD (vapour pressure deficit). Precisely why there's a dessert on the other side of the mountains, irrespective of whether the warming is caused by natural events or humans.
RaptorSA said:
Have fun trying to fight something like this, even if you have adequate water suppression and "cleaned" up the forests, brushes etc.
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They may not be "successful" at fighting something like this but the goal is to minimize the impact. And that is where their fault lies.

Simply stating that the severity of impact is due to climate change and climate change only is inaccurate.
 
Paulsie said:
Either he's lying, he's correct or you just assume he's being critical because he's a Republican.
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You can be wrong and not be lying, lying is tellinh an intentional untruth.

Paulsie said:
Which is it?

If the latter, does your opinion trump mine?
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He is a career politician, what expertise/experience does he have to make authoritative comments on firefighting strategy and climate change? Especially as to how it relates to California.

Do you think Fox News is a credible source of information that is unbiased?
 
Meanwhile, in the cANCer state...
Each category will be given a carbon quota, and each business in that category must apply for a slice of that carbon quota
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.“Should a business exceed its carbon quota, it will be fined. If it uses less than its quota, it can be taken away and given to another business,” Le Roux said.
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Even more concerning is that if a new business wants to enter a category, it will need to see if enough carbon quotas are available.
“It will create a massive fight, where big and small businesses turn on each other and businesses of the same size fight against each other,” he said.
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dailyinvestor.com

New law threatening South African businesses

South Africa’s new Climate Change Act is set to wreak havoc among South African businesses, Sakeliga warns.
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Paulsie said:
They may not be "successful" at fighting something like this but the goal is to minimize the impact. And that is where their fault lies.
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Is the point you're making that Calfire/county/city/town firefighters do nothing preventative?
 
@quovadis - Key words - MINIMIZING THE IMPACT - that means actioning the proper approved mitigation procedures - like keeping reservoirs FULL of water & maintained properly, doing inspections on fire hydrants to ensure they are operational, doing backburns & clearing of underbrush and deadwood (No, NOT Dementia Joe, Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell) and ensuring that there are sufficient resources, equipment & manpower to tackle any emergency or disaster (natural or unnatural) - that was NOT the case for this situation - they were caught with their panties down in their unisex bathrooms....
 
Ivan Leon said:
@quovadis - Key words - MINIMIZING THE IMPACT - that means actioning the proper approved mitigation procedures - like keeping reservoirs FULL of water & maintained properly, doing inspections on fire hydrants to ensure they are operational, doing backburns & clearing of underbrush and deadwood (No, NOT Dementia Joe, Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell) and ensuring that there are sufficient resources, equipment & manpower to tackle any emergency or disaster (natural or unnatural) - that was NOT the case for this situation - they were caught with their panties down in their unisex bathrooms...
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@Ivan Leon are you capable of presenting a position without the loaded language?

If so, then you can advise what your expectation is when the entire mountainous vegetation is dry - remove it all?

Are you of the opinion that did nothing of any of the items you mentioned?
 
quovadis said:
@Ivan Leon are you capable of presenting a position without the loaded language?

If so, then you can advise what your expectation is when the entire mountainous vegetation is dry - remove it all?

Are you of the opinion that did nothing of any of the items you mentioned?
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Watch this video - absorb the information therein - and then draw your own conclusions as to whether this was a WIN or a FAIL...

(I have set the video to start at the 9:10 timestamp, so all you need to do is click PLAY...)

 
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