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Alan, as a conservative you should actually be against global warming denialism:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../11/05/AR2010110503155.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../11/05/AR2010110503155.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Global warming is like socialism
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15410/title/why-socialism-is-evil/cat/all
Lets see the faithful start making real cutbacks to fund the "war on global warming" before tacking money out the pockets of others.
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/15410/title/why-socialism-is-evil/cat/all
Lets see the faithful start making real cutbacks to fund the "war on global warming" before tacking money out the pockets of others.
What exactly are you talking about?
I'm still not following you here. Failure to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will have a far greater impact on the lives and pockets of Average Joes than an effective mitigation strategy will. Almost all the science agrees. That's what the OP is about - science advocacy has taken a step into the public spotlight to counter Republican corporate shills that have taken power in the US.
Everything is being cut back why should Climate scientists/activists be any different especially when the faithful are such conspicuous spenders themselves.
I'm sure they could cover the cut backs if Hollywood celeb evangelicals like Leonardo Di caprio start selling up their multi million dollar mansions and toys, maybe replace your scoobie for a ****ty golf and donate the proceeds
etc.
Like I said the average joe won't give up his money if he sees the actual believers doing little or nothing beyond symbolic efforts themselves.
I'm sure they could cover the cut backs if Hollywood celeb evangelicals like Leonardo Di caprio start selling up their multi million dollar mansions and toys, maybe replace your scoobie for a ****ty golf and donate the proceeds
etc.Like I said the average joe won't give up his money if he sees the actual believers doing little or nothing beyond symbolic efforts themselves.
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Hmm... this whole global warming thing is very shaky.
Honestly theres not much evidence pointing towards climate change due to pollution vs climate change due to the 'wobble' of the planet.
We can see the weather change in an area thats heavily polluted, slightly, but thats a small scale effect.
I'm not saying theres no such thing as global climate change due to pollutants, I'm just saying we need a little more thought and a little less bias.
Honestly theres not much evidence pointing towards climate change due to pollution vs climate change due to the 'wobble' of the planet.
We can see the weather change in an area thats heavily polluted, slightly, but thats a small scale effect.
I'm not saying theres no such thing as global climate change due to pollutants, I'm just saying we need a little more thought and a little less bias.
Everything is being cut back why should Climate scientists/activists be any different especially when the faithful are such conspicuous spenders themselves.
I'm sure they could cover the cut backs if Hollywood celeb evangelicals like Leonardo Di caprio start selling up their multi million dollar mansions and toys, maybe replace your scoobie for a ****ty golf and donate the proceeds
Like I said the average joe won't give up his money if he sees the actual believers doing little or nothing beyond symbolic efforts themselves.
No, Republicans will INCREASE spending on oil and gas exploration and drilling and decrease spending on renewables.
The bit I bolded... that's pure bull****. I suggest you do some reading up on the science.
I have, in fact I have done a lot!
The thing is the earth naturally changes its position, the location of the equator shifts up and down, etc. I'm not going to go all in here on the detail.
The effect on the global climate due to this shifting and various other effects can produce what we are seeing today.
So to totally ignore that fact and point at pollution and say ITS THAT ITS THAT, is an very naive thing to do.
Simple thing is we have not been around long enough to say for sure, so its not the correct time to be choosing sides.
I am sorry to say but its this kind of thinking that is delaying the Worlds time to react. People saying that there is no clear indication that CO2 causes global warming. Yes CO2 levels has been at this levels a few million years ago not just once or twice. But CO2 levels has been a indication of great climate changes on is the way.
Well I personaly believe its to late. There is no way for us to change our mindsets anymore. In another 10 years time we would have long surpassed the point of return. The Earth it self will clean it self off of this Virus called the Human race in less than 10 000 years the buildings that you see that shapes our skylines will be all that remains of us all.
We cant change 6 billion peoples way of thinking when it would cost the most wealthy the most money. They will keep on promoting this way of life. Its pointless we are already doomed.
Well I personaly believe its to late. There is no way for us to change our mindsets anymore. In another 10 years time we would have long surpassed the point of return. The Earth it self will clean it self off of this Virus called the Human race in less than 10 000 years the buildings that you see that shapes our skylines will be all that remains of us all.
We cant change 6 billion peoples way of thinking when it would cost the most wealthy the most money. They will keep on promoting this way of life. Its pointless we are already doomed.
Stop stuffing that crack pipe its bad for you. The wobble of the eath has nothing to do with the CO2 levels in the atmosphere please dont smoke crack then come post stupid statments here.
Funny because pretty much all the peer reviewed literature disagrees with what you just said.
I guess you study geography then?
Of course the wobble affects the global climate!
If you can't understand that then you don't have sufficient knowledge to be on this thread! What an ignorant thing to say!
The earths axes is not constant, it changes... Changing the angle at which radiation enters the atmosphere at different latitudes.
This change DIRECTLY causes climate change...
Add to that the ocean currents and the solar energy received at the poles, theres just too much to type!
And if you think CO2 is the only gas then lol! what about Methane, Nitroseoxide, Ozone and Water Vapor!? Did they just stop existing?
I'm not saying that gas levels don't affect climate at all, I'm just saying they are not the only players here so we HAVE to take that into account before we start pooling money and fighting political wars.
We have not been observing the climate for thousands of years, we can't just point and shoot here.
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Yes it has, and more than likely as a result, rather than a cause, of a changing climate. It's too late because there was never anything we could do about it, we don't have the ability to change the climate globally, nor have we ever had that ability. The planet is doing what it does and we just have to strap ourselves in and enjoy the ride.
Pity. The strategy of letting the science speak for itself, without scientists speaking about it on public platforms has clearly not worked, hence the massive number of people who think that the science is shaky.