Coal-Reliant South Africa Is Turning to Gas Power

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Coal-Reliant South Africa Is Turning to Gas Power

The government aims to cut emissions to net-zero by 2050. Its energy blueprint envisions the construction of scores of solar- and wind-powered plants. But there are widespread doubts that those projects can happen fast enough, or be reliable enough, to replace coal. So a controversial fossil fuel remains part of the planned energy mix: natural gas.
 

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Our plan is developing nicely. Medupi is "over-budget" by over 200 billion. We feasted on that one. Now we have a new train to board: I present to you the "Turning to Gas Power (tm)" gravy train.

All aboard!
 

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Gas "back-up" for renewables = yes. Gas baseload = no.
Agreed. The base load needs to be renewables. We have VAST sources of wind on- and offshore as well as solar. Cover the NC with solar...nothing happens there anyway.
 

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Gas "back-up" for renewables = yes. Gas baseload = no.
So what would we have as a baseload? Nuclear? Coal? Remember you cannot have renewables as a baseload as it's non-dispatchable and you cannot rely on it for a consistent base.
 

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So what would we have as a baseload? Nuclear? Coal? Remember you cannot have renewables as a baseload as it's non-dispatchable and you cannot rely on it for a consistent base.
but that's the whole point: Renewables+Gas is dispatchable.
 

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Because renewables uber alles, right?
Seems a lot of people seem to think this, though they've so far shown they aren't. Great for when you've got the available resource, not so good when it's not around. Still need a solid base.
 

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Seems a lot of people seem to think this, though they've so far shown they aren't. Great for when you've got the available resource, not so good when it's not around. Still need a solid base.
The problem is these same people grasp the concept, but clearly do not grasp context.

That is: where and how renewables can be deployed in SA, in what concentration and for what purpose.

For example: Comparing SA to a water rich country that has ample hydro capacity and utilizes excess non-dispatchable renewable capacity such as solar to keep pumped storage topped up during the day before switching to a mix of gas and hydro at night, is daft
 

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The problem is these same people grasp the concept, but clearly do not grasp context.

That is: where and how renewables can be deployed in SA, in what concentration and for what purpose.

For example: Comparing SA to a water rich country that has ample hydro capacity and utilizes excess non-dispatchable renewable capacity such as solar to keep pumped storage topped up during the day before switching to a mix of gas and hydro at night, is daft
Yup, but there are a lot on here who will argue we should go solar and use things like CSP and and and.
 

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Every single person within the ANC goverment is out of phase, they still somehow think they are doing what is best.

Well they are doing whats best, for their back pockets for right now... fsck the future.
 
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