Colonialism wasn't all bad‚ says Helen Zille

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Big LOL at 14 and 19.

14. No class or race, for those who are lucky enough to be considered as humans (which excludes Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, disabled, everyone not baptized and only if their nose is not too big).

19. Except for free Zyklon B showers whenever deemed required.

PS: Fischer Tropsch process was created 8 years before Hitler came to power.

The jet reactor technology was created and designed before (in 1910 actually), the first jet plane to fly happened to be nazi in 1939 but every Western nation was already on it and the British had theirs flying in 1941 and US in 1942.
 

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Any world or science that can travel between stars would have massive resources available to them. And would be unlikely to be war-mongering.

Unless of course their version of supremacist Nazis/internet racists won out in the end and they go annihilating other intelligent species for fun because they are the master race.
 

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Colonialism is still exploitation, no matter how we look at it. To be honest, historically, there are not many long-standing (or good-standing) relationships between the colonists and the indigenous peoples. The negatives outweigh the positives, perhaps not in the colonist’s view, you know what I mean. People simply do not share the same experience…

Nobody is blaming the Romans, do they? Who’s blaming the Zulu's?

Without Colonialism Africa would even today be one huge Kruger National Park filled with many waring tribes.
 

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She's talking nonsense. All those positives could have been introduced without colonialism, through trade, sharing of knowledge, alliances and mutual respect. The idea that the oppression and subjugation through the establishment of colonies was necessary for development is nonsense.

Yep the first world called Africa is full of exceptional examples. Zimbabwe of course the cream of the crop with a flourishing economy, agriculture and political system after decolonisation African style. You must be so proud!
 

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So all the positives were a direct result of the oppression and subjugation of people?
The people were illiterate and had to be trained and guided to a modern far advanced culture and science. That takes time. Look at the mess of our current education system if you battle to see real life reality.
 

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Ag I give up. THERE IS NO HOPE!
Zim2.0 here we come.

Ag, boet. This is the way I see it: my favourite people are moralists and people with passion for their beliefs. Therefore, logically I love hijab,wearing, feminists the most and tomorrow's Friday. The chances are we're all going to die in horrific fear and pain at some point. Just go with it. The majority of human beings who were born were destined to die of malaria, thank whatever, you and I probably wont die of that.
 

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Without Colonialism Africa would even today be one huge Kruger National Park filled with many waring tribes.
Yup, it amazes me how people always claim there would have been other options, but they ALL involve colonialism in some form. Never Africans doing and developing on their own. It's almost like this isn't a possible option. Almost I say. ;)
 

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People who support Zille on this, might as well support fathers who rape their daughters, after-all they also do some good such as provide food, shelter, schooling and shopping sprees while they defile their own flash and blood.
 

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People who support Zille on this, might as well support fathers who rape their daughters, after-all they also do some good such as provide food, shelter, schooling and shopping sprees while they defile their own flash and blood.
Oh stop perpetuating the false analogies!
 

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Nothing false just the truth mate
You can't comprehend the truth mate. This once again proves how piss poor analogies are at explaining things. Most people often don't know the correct analogy to use.
 

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Yeah, we were just passing by on our ships and we wouldn't want to intrude but we thought you may appreciate some picture-based user manuals on things like the written word, our current methods of road & rail construction, architecture and farming to mention but a few. Use it, don't use it. Toodles!

Exactly.
Looks like jan came and destroyed all their trading, all the buildings they built, all the farms that produced all that food. /S
 

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She's talking nonsense. All those positives could have been introduced without colonialism, through trade, sharing of knowledge, alliances and mutual respect. The idea that the oppression and subjugation through the establishment of colonies was necessary for development is nonsense.

What knowledge, trading? Trading medicine with dead babies' bones under a tree.
 
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