Colonialism wasn't all bad‚ says Helen Zille

[rietrot]

how is that relevant to my point, you think its perfectly acceptable compensating someone to stop their slave practises?

I suppose we should start paying criminals to stop engaging in crime

You can't expropriate property without compensation. It's only right to pay the owners.

 

[Saber_rider45]

So all poor and black responsible for some burning schools?

You are forgetting the rules of engagement here not all white people but all black people.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

And this discrimination stopped overnight? People were miraculously cured of their prejudice. Or is it something that takes time, and still exists today?

I posed a question

Prejudice certainly doesn't exist in any way that matters in the US today.

You made a statement. Which was based entirely on your perception

Oh no, son. You made the original claim - that blacks still had to overcome prejudice. The burden of proof is yours. Enjoy.

You want me to find articles online where black people are claiming prejudice? How many do you want exactly?

 

[Nick333]

I posed a question

You made a statement. Which was based entirely on your perception

You want me to find articles online where black people are claiming prejudice? How many do you want exactly?

Oh, so you don't believe it exists today? You were just asking a question from a completely agnostic position?

Sure, mate.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Oh, so you don't believe it exists today? You were just asking a question from a completely agnostic position?

Sure, mate.

And you were make that bold statement from what position exactly? You decided, in your head that it didn't exist today.

Do you want me to start with some police videos? Twitter posts, articles on websites. Take your pick. There's lots out there. The KKK is even resurgent these days

 

[saturnz]

Slave owners weren't criminals though were they? It was legal to own slaves in the southern states at the time of slave ownership in the States.

Apartheid was also legal, amazing how history repeats itself

as for the prison stats, the population consists mostly of black prisoners, and many for petty crimes relating to drug use, and we all know why recreational drugs were made illegal in the US

 

[Nick333]

And you were make that bold statement from what position exactly? You decided, in your head that it didn't exist today.

Do you want me to start with some police videos? Twitter posts, articles on websites. Take your pick. There's lots out there. The KKK is even resurgent these days

Oh, so you're now offering evidence for a point you claim not to have been making? OK.

Does occasional police violence stop black kids from going to school, getting an education and then a job?

Are internet trolls and the KKK the teachers and employers in America. I didn't claim that prejudice doesn't exist. I said it doesn't matter.

 

[rietrot]

Apartheid was also legal, amazing how history repeats itself

And communism was legal and they are trying to make etolls legal. What's your point

 

[saturnz]

And communism was legal and they are trying to make etolls legal. What's your point

point is denying someone their freedom and enslaving them against their will is criminal, no matter what man made laws have to say about it

 

[Nick333]

Apartheid was also legal, amazing how history repeats itself

as for the prison stats, the population consists mostly of black prisoners, and many for petty crimes relating to drug use, and we all know why recreational drugs were made illegal in the US

Because blacks were fccking themselves up with drugs? Ja, terribly racist to try and stop people from abusing drugs.

 

[saturnz]

Because blacks were fccking themselves up with drugs? Ja, terribly racist to try and stop people from abusing drugs.

well if that's your view then no wonder you have no problem with slavery as long as its legal

 

[Nick333]

well if that's your view then no wonder you have no problem with slavery as long as its legal

Lol, I'd love to see your workings out for that one.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Are internet trolls and the KKK the teachers and employers in America. I didn't claim that prejudice doesn't exist. I said it doesn't matter.

You mean it doesn't matter to you.

 

[saturnz]

Lol, I'd love to see your workings out for that one.

says the guy who came up with this gem

Because blacks were fccking themselves up with drugs?

how did you figure that out?

 

[rietrot]

point is denying someone their freedom and enslaving them against their will is criminal, no matter what man made laws have to say about it

Criminal is the wrong word, that implies a man made law was broken. Maybe use morally wrong, evil, bad, etc...

 

[Nick333]

You mean it doesn't matter to you.

No, it doesn't. Why would it? Why should it? My feeling bad about nasty words on the Internet and fools in white sheets isn't going to help anyone to learn to read is it?

In fact, your attitude amuses me. Do you really think the existence of Internet racists and neo-nazis is magically stopping kids from finishing school and getting jobs?

 

[saturnz]

Criminal is the wrong word, that implies a man made law was broken. Maybe use morally wrong, evil, bad, etc...

The label of "crime" and the accompanying social stigma normally confine their scope to those activities seen as injurious to the general population or to the State, including some that cause serious loss or damage to individuals. Those who apply the labels of "crime" or "criminal" intend to assert the hegemony of a dominant population, or to reflect a consensus of condemnation for the identified behavior and to justify any punishments prescribed by the State (in the event that standard processing tries and convicts an accused person of a crime).

I'll stick with criminal thankz

 

[Nick333]

says the guy who came up with this gem



how did you figure that out?

The white politicians who banned drugs didn't then go and inject heroine and crack in black peoples veins.

They actually had to be doing drugs for them to be guilty when doing drugs became a crime.

 

[rietrot]

I'll stick with criminal thankz

That doesn't make any sense because non of the things you have problems with were crimes or criminal at the time. There are worse labels than criminal.

 

[saturnz]

The white politicians who banned drugs didn't then go and inject heroine and crack in black peoples veins.

They actually had to be doing drugs for them to be guilty when doing drugs became a crime.

so the white people made it illegal to protect the black people, that makes so much sense now...