Comcast shuts down large downloaders but faces stiff competition

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Shutting Down Big Downloaders
Comcast Cuts Internet Service to Bandwidth Hogs

By Kim Hart
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 7, 2007; A01



The rapid growth of online videos, music and games has created a new Internet sin: using it too much.

Comcast has punished some transgressors by cutting off their Internet service, arguing that excessive downloaders hog Internet capacity and slow down the network for other customers. The company declines to reveal its download limits.

"You have no way of knowing how much is too much," said Sandra Spalletta of Rockville, whose Internet service was suspended in March after Comcast sent her a letter warning that she and her teenage son were using too much bandwidth. They cut back on downloads but were still disconnected. She said the company would not tell her how to monitor their bandwidth use in order to comply with the limits.

"You want to think you can rely on your home Internet service and not wake up one morning to find it turned off," said Spalletta, who filed a complaint with the Montgomery County Office of Cable and Communication Services. "I thought it was unlimited service."

As Internet service providers try to keep up with the demand for increasingly sophisticated online entertainment such as high-definition movies, streaming TV shows and interactive games, such caps could become more common, some analysts said.

It's unclear how many customers have lost Internet service because of overuse. So far, only Comcast customers have reported being affected. Comcast said only a small fraction of its customers use enough bandwidth to warrant pulling the plug on their service.

Cable companies are facing tough competition from telephone giants like AT&T and Verizon, which are installing new cables capable of carrying more Internet traffic.

The cable companies collectively spent about $90 billion in the past decade to improve their networks. And on cable networks, several hundred subscribers often share an Internet connection, so one high-traffic user could slow the rest of a neighborhood's connections. Phone lines are run directly to each home, so a single bandwidth hog will not slow other connections.

As Internet users make more demands of the network, cable companies in particular could soon end up with a critically short supply of bandwidth, according to a report released this month by ABI Research, a New York market-research firm. This could lead to a bigger crackdown on heavy bandwidth users, said the report's author, Stan Schatt.

"These new applications require huge amounts of bandwidth," he said. Cable "used to have the upper hand because they basically enjoyed monopolies, but there are more competitive pressures now."

To trigger a disconnection warning, customers would be downloading the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four full-length movies every day. Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas declined to reveal specific bandwidth limits.

"It's our responsibility to make sure everyone has the best service possible," he said, "so we have to address abusive activities so they won't damage the experience for other customers. "

Companies have argued that if strict limits were disclosed, customers would use as much capacity as possible without tipping the scale, causing networks to slow to a crawl.

Some customers are unaware they are using so much capacity, sometimes because neighbors are covertly connecting through unsecured wireless routers. When they are told of that possibility, many curb their use after an initial warning, Douglas said. Others, however, may be running bandwidth-hungry servers intended for small businesses from their homes, which can bog down a network serving a neighborhood. Comcast said it gives customers a month to fix problems or upgrade to business accounts before shutting off their Internet service.

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This is going to become a bigger and bigger problem. The biggest beef I have is that some people just download for the sake of downloading. They will download a Vista installation DVD on the off chance they may install it. By the time they come to install it, there is a new version out.
 

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I agree, download what you must, not would you think would be nice to have incase you ever need it, or would want it. Download what you want when you need it.

Also, downloading 4 full length movies and 1000 songs a day, is a bit rediculous - interesting question would be is this the kind of thing that Telkom is trying to advertise with their "Do movies, Do music" advertising? I doubt it, for them it would be a bad 2mb clip from yester-year and maybe a song.

"Touch Tomorrow" - and we might just cut your index finger off?
 

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To trigger a disconnection warning, customers would be downloading the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four full-length movies every day. Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas declined to reveal specific bandwidth limits.
I could quite happily live with those sort of restrictions - especially for the money. What is it - $99 per month for their triple play service?
 

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The nice thing about competition is (and this is the reason Comcast doesn't want to divulge exactly what amounts to too much use) is that if they offer less than the next guy, the next guy will get more customers. Competition will always drive the bar and usage limits will continue to expand as the internet expands and more bandwidth is added, cheaper than before and more efficiently.

If we had proper competition in this country, Telkom would probably be selling 15 gig international caps as entry level for under R200 all in!
 

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If you look at it from Comcast's point of view, they're quite happy to lose those customers to their competition. Those high usage customers (3GB+ per day) are not the norm, and are expensive to service, so why not let your competition service them?
 

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someone will one day offer a viable service to those who want 3GB+ a day. At affordable prices. And there is money to be made.

But to the point at hand, are these Comcast accounts also not marketed as unlimited?
 

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someone will one day offer a viable service to those who want 3GB+ a day. At affordable prices. And there is money to be made.

But to the point at hand, are these Comcast accounts also not marketed as unlimited?

Supposedly. Unlimited doesn't seem unlimited in company "speak". Telkom also seems to take the term "broadband" for granted. They all do...
 

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Supposedly. Unlimited doesn't seem unlimited in company "speak". Telkom also seems to take the term "broadband" for granted. They all do...

The problem is that affordable and downloading 4 full length movies and 1000 songs a day cannot work together. More and more people are going to start using uncapped this way and it's going to put pressure on prices. Bandwidth is not free and no company can afford to have torrents going full speed all day long at $99 per month.
 

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instead of using affordable i should perhaps said priced fairly
 

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as the first one on thread whose actually a Comcast customer :p I havent noticed any slowdown in my torrents :)

That said, where I am, there are at least 3 or 4 other unsecured wireless networks overlapping my own - and whenever there's a wobble on one network, I just connect to another..
There are still major advantages to having more or less unlimited bandwidth in a country - it means you can download whatever, and never think about it.

I've noticed that the biggest odd effect to the iron curtain of Telkom, means that its VERY difficult to find much South African music (or anything else) in torrents - whereas every other country's music and movies are totally represented. Telkom has kind of slowed down the spread of all the good stuff from SA, from being appreciated by the rest of the internet.
Which is sad, as the music/art/movies etc act as a kind of 'advert' for the country itself.
 
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