Concerns over South Africa's piracy crackdown

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Concerns over South Africa's piracy crackdown

South African ISPs would struggle to monitor user traffic for illegal downloads and streaming without substantial impacts on their network performance and the prices of broadband packages.

This is according to the Internet Services Providers' Association (ISPA) - an Internet industry body which represents hundreds of ISPs in South Africa.

These comments came in light of a new proposal from the Department of Communications and Digital Technologies (DCDT) which forms part of its Draft White Paper on Audio and Audio-visual Content Services Policy Framework.
 
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Absolute Logic and Common Sense from ISPA.

The problem seems to be that someone seriously need to explain to these Government tools, that there's a difference between policing the streets, regulating their own farts and knowing how Technology works.

They know nothing. They are as numb as a rock.
A rock needs to be throwed or moved somewhere. At least it has a standard function.

Government does not control everything. They can fk off.
 
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They should simply look at the great firewall in China as an example to see that the internet cannot be controlled or monitored fully.
 
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What I don't understand is why the government even gives a shet about this lmao.
 
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Vorastra said:
What I don't understand is why the government even gives a shet about this lmao.
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That's something I'm also struggling to understand. You would think there are currently more important matters for them to concern themselves about.
 
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The only reason for this bill is not to combat piracy, its a new idea for the ANC cadres to line their pockets. Virtually everyone streams or downloads pirated in their lifetime, its an untapped market in billions for these greedy MF's.
 
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Hanno Labuschagne said:
Concerns over South Africa's piracy crackdown

South African ISPs would struggle to monitor user traffic for illegal downloads and streaming without substantial impacts on their network performance and the prices of broadband packages.

This is according to the Internet Services Providers' Association (ISPA) - an Internet industry body which represents hundreds of ISPs in South Africa.

These comments came in light of a new proposal from the Department of Communications and Digital Technologies (DCDT) which forms part of its Draft White Paper on Audio and Audio-visual Content Services Policy Framework.
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Is wholesale monitoring by ISP even constitutional in terms of rights to privacy?

Sure you will catch a few pirates, but what about the risk of privacy data leaking, eg list of pornhub videos viewed by CiC for political gain.

Not constitutional at all.
Very risky.
 
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There is no crackdown, just a proposal.
 
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killerbyte said:
Surfshark - https://order.surfshark.com/
NordVPN - https://nordvpn.com/
ExpressVPN - https://www.expressvpn.com/

I will be signing up with a VPN provider at the end of the year.
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There are a few free options:
  • Cloudflare WARP+ (1.1.1.1)
  • Ookla Speedtest.net VPN
  • Google One - VPN included (not free, but part of subscription)
If you have a cloud VM, pretty simple to install OpenVPN or Wireguard or use SOCKS5 (ssh -D)

I've used:
SOCK5 https://ma.ttias.be/socks-proxy-linux-ssh-bypass-content-filters/
PIA https://www.privateinternetaccess.com
WARP+
All work well
 
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haroldj said:
The only reason for this bill is not to combat piracy, its a new idea for the ANC cadres to line their pockets. Virtually everyone streams or downloads pirated in their lifetime, its an untapped market in billions for these greedy MF's.
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Well as the law stands now, the government can't do crap if you download content it has nothing to do with them, it is a civil matter, and up to the copyright holder to take action as a civil matter. Sharing and uploading content is what they really after as that is a criminal offense. Additionally as the law also stand they can't claim damages more then the actual value of the item that was downloaded.If for example the film or series value is R50.00 they can't claim civil damages more then that.

One of the main reasons why no person(at least that we are aware off) in south Africa has been sued by a copy right holder locally or internationally for downloading some thing. It isn't worth the effort, and there is no benefit to the government as they have no right to take civil action on the behalf of the copyright holder either and they don't get a cut either way.


So your assumption is incorrect that they stand to make money, downloading is civil and up to the copyright holder to take action, uploading is criminal, and that still requires a warrant.Unless you are a complete moron even with uploading it would be hard to nail someone.
 
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