Conflict flares up in Gaza again

[Seriously]

Has Hamas captured an IDF soldier or not?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2014/07/21/gaza-rejoices-at-alleged-capture-of-israeli-soldier

Hamas gained Palestinian acclaim and plaudits from backers in the Arab world when in 2011 it parlayed the release of an Israeli conscript soldier abducted five years earlier in a cross-border raid into the freeing of more than 1,000 Palestinians from Israeli prisons.

The worth ratio seems about right! 1:1000.

 

[Spizz]

This is the only solution.
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Problem solved.

You're welcome

Lol, are you so naive to think that giving the land to the Palestinians will solve the problem? Even if every Jew disappeared overnight (which they wouldn't so terrorism in reverse), the killing would just be starting as the factions started their struggle for control. Today's troubles would seem like a trip to the play park compared to the killing that would come.

 

[falcon786]

Neither the Arab nations! Israel were the one prepared to live with them but scum like Hamas have other plans more in like with Iranian scum and extremists!

Actually Jews were living just fine in Palestine pre-Israel.Its the Zionist insistence on a Jewish state that has messed the area up.The funny thing is instead of giving them land in Germany which would be fair after what the Nazi's did to the Jews,they instead decided to displace an entire Palestinian people to give them a state.

I'm not against a Jewish state but I'm against the fact that the Palestinians were displaced to achieve this state.The zionists are the ones that pushed this issue for their own personal power it has nothing to do with Judaism,the religion can survive just fine without a state.It has done so successfully for many centuries

Now IF we all pray for the same god why do you islamists call a jihad on all infidels?

What are you talking about?It seems like you don't understand Islam at all.The actual; term "Islamist" is made up rubbish,I'm proudly "Islamist" and I've never called for a Jihad on anyone.Why would I need to kill anyone?

ie anyone not accepting their fsucked up lifestyle and religion and accept Muhammad the teenage rapist in the name of Allah?

You really don't understand Islamic lifestyle or religion at all it seems,its actually very very close to your own,you have probably been exposed to some right wing rubbish which has made you think this way,the reality may surprise you.We actually have much in common with Jews,we don't drink alcohol,gamble,eat pork etc.Also we pray to the same GOD and strive not to sin.As for your misgivings about Mohammed being a rapist its a well documented fact that she was his respected and loved wife with whom he only had intercourse with when she was mature and she went on to become a great leader in Islam and for the Muslims.But yes all that is a discussion for another place/time.

I suggest you go read through the Intro to Islam thread before jumping to conclusions.Also take the time to understand your own religion before attacking Islam,you'll be surprised how many things are alike.Girls getting married at a young age was also a common occurrence in Judaism during earlier ages where life expectancies were around 25 years old.

 

[Seriously]

Lol, are you so naive to think that giving the land to the Palestinians will solve the problem? Even if every Jew disappeared overnight (which they wouldn't so terrorism in reverse), the killing would just be starting as the factions started their struggle for control. Today's troubles would seem like a trip to the play park compared to the killing that would come.

They cannot comprehend that simple statement of truth you made. The poor guys should just follow what happens elsewhere in the world under Islamic brutality rule. Yet they are here in South Africa and prefers it because Islamist are not in the ruling here!

 

[d0b33]

Lol, are you so naive to think that giving the land to the Palestinians will solve the problem? Even if every Jew disappeared overnight (which they wouldn't so terrorism in reverse), the killing would just be starting as the factions started their struggle for control. Today's troubles would seem like a trip to the play park compared to the killing that would come.

Problem Solved.

 

[Spizz]

Actually Jews were living just fine in Palestine pre-Israel.Its the Zionist insistence on a Jewish state that has messed the area up.The funny thing is instead of giving them land in Germany which would be fair after what the Nazi's did to the Jews,they instead decided to displace an entire Palestinian people to give them a state.

I'm not against a Jewish state but I'm against the fact that the Palestinians were displaced to achieve this state.The zionists are the ones that pushed this issue for their own personal power it has nothing to do with Judaism,the religion can survive just fine without a state.It has done so successfully for many centuries


What are you talking about?It seems like you don't understand Islam at all.The actual; term "Islamist" is made up rubbish,I'm proudly "Islamist" and I've never called for a Jihad on anyone.Why would I need to kill anyone?



You really don't understand Islamic lifestyle or religion at all it seems,its actually very very close to your own,you have probably been exposed to some right wing rubbish which has made you think this way,the reality may surprise you.We actually have much in common with Jews,we don't drink alcohol,gamble,eat pork etc.Also we pray to the same GOD and strive not to sin.As for your misgivings about Mohammed being a rapist its a well documented fact that she was his respected and loved wife with whom he only had intercourse with when she was mature and she went on to become a great leader in Islam and for the Muslims.But yes all that is a discussion for another place/time.

I suggest you go read through the Intro to Islam thread before jumping to conclusions.Also take the time to understand your own religion before attacking Islam,you'll be surprised how many things are alike.Girls getting married at a young age was also a common occurrence in Judaism during earlier ages where life expectancies were around 25 years old.

A couple of points. You say 'we don't drink alcohol, gamble....etc' when what you mean is 'we are not supposed to...' but most do, and you said Aisha was mature when I think you meant to say 9 years old.

 

[Spizz]

Problem Solved.

No, you've lost me there. What problem is solved? The problem of life or land?

 

[Mineer]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza

The Israeli military is using flechette shells, which spray out thousands of tiny and potentially lethal metal darts, in its military operation in Gaza.

Six flechette shells were fired towards the village of Khuzaa, east of Khan Younis, on 17 July, according to the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. Nahla Khalil Najjar, 37, suffered injuries to her chest, it said. PCHR provided a picture of flechettes taken by a fieldworker last week.

The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) did not deny using the shells in the conflict. "As a rule, the IDF only employs weapons that have been determined lawful under international law, and in a manner which fully conforms with the laws of armed conflict," a spokesperson said in response to a request for specific comment on the deployment of flechettes.

B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, describes a flechette shell as "an anti-personnel weapon that is generally fired from a tank. The shell explodes in the air and releases thousands of metal darts 37.5mm in length, which disperse in a conical arch 300 metres long and about 90 metres wide".

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[falcon786]

Have you ever considered becoming a diplomat ?

Can we send him to negotiate with Boko Haraam ,please

 

[Spizz]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza


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Eish, just horrific.

 

[d0b33]

No, you've lost me there. What problem is solved? The problem of life or land?

These true-torah/anti-zionist Jews are never part of any negotiations, they should be.

 

[Mineer]

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...asefire-escalate-war-2014719173840867406.html

Hamas, which has roots in Egypt's outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, said it was never consulted about Cairo's ceasefire proposal, having learned of it from media reports. It is extraordinary that a supposed mediator between two warring parties would exclude one of them from the process.

This would almost ensure that party's rejection, regardless of the proposal's content, because it would be humiliating to accept something presented as a fait accompli. As such, Hamas' rejection was hardly surprising, describing the initiative as one of "bowing and submission".

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Ask ROOSTER, that banned vermin knows everything about "chickens and eggs" and who was first!

So in your eyes the suicide bombings are justified as there are reasons for it but Israel defending their right to peace and safety not?

Of course suicide bombings aren't justified. Unlike you I haven't taken sides and find any acts of violence against innocent people to be nothing less than what it is : murder.

Ask ROOSTER, that banned vermin knows everything about "chickens and eggs" and who was first!

So in your eyes the suicide bombings are justified as there are reasons for it but Israel defending their right to peace and safety not?

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Are you claiming that Mohammed did not rape Asha a nine year old girl he "married"? I would rather like to know why Islamist extremists defend such behaviour!

Have you ever considered becoming a diplomat ?

 

[Spizz]

These true-torah/anti-zionist Jews are never part of any negotiations, they should be.

You mean fly them over from New York? Why on earth would you do that and to what end?

 

[daveza]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza


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The legality of flechette munitions was upheld by the Israeli supreme court in 2002, and according to an Israeli military source, they are particularly effective against enemy fighters operating in areas covered by vegetation.

Gaza must be the perfect place to use them then. :erm:

 

[falcon786]

A couple of points. You say 'we don't drink alcohol, gamble....etc' when what you mean is 'we are not supposed to...' but most do, and you said Aisha was mature when I think you meant to say 9 years old.

Thats totally derailing the thread and also not accurate,I know a FEW do but that's irrespective and really has nothing to do with the current topic.As for Aish'a age etc its a topic for another time also,I have said what I said and what I have said is a fact,feel free to pm me if you want more details.

 

[d0b33]

You mean fly them over from New York? Why on earth would you do that and to what end?

Many live in Israel, they've been living there (in Palestine) before Israel was founded.

 

[Mineer]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ets-calling-Israel-stop-bombardment-Gaza.html

Schoolchildren have led thousands of protesters through Sydney's CBD, demanding an end to Israel's military offensive in Gaza.
Stunned shoppers watched on as a crowd of more than 2000 marched down George Street, waving flags and chanting, 'In our thousands, in our millions, we are all Palestinian.'
It is Sydney's second major pro-Palestine rally in a fortnight.
Parramatta woman Buthania Saeed took her children to Sunday's protest, which came days after four youngsters were killed in an air strike as they played on a beach in Gaza City.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rael-stop-bombardment-Gaza.html#ixzz386zUCnze
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[Saba'a]

Lol, are you so naive to think that giving the land to the Palestinians will solve the problem? Even if every Jew disappeared overnight (which they wouldn't so terrorism in reverse), the killing would just be starting as the factions started their struggle for control. Today's troubles would seem like a trip to the play park compared to the killing that would come.

I think its tongue in cheek. I read it as one
Thats anticipating things. I am sure the same was said of South Africa. Lots of muslim states that are stable. Point is we shouldnt generalise. I certainly dont think seriously or marine represent all jews.