Conflict flares up in Gaza again

[AthenianOwl]

I agree with you. Hamas must carry the blame for their deaths.

So you are saying that Chosen Ones should not be ALSO blamed for their senseless deaths? Please clarify.

 

[Spizz]

actually, the entire issue is due to radical and racist zionism. hellbent on the concept of occupying the land at all costs, human life be damned! you speak of warmongers, yet WHO are the ones dying in the hundreds? Whose blood is being spilt ? whose children are being blown to pieces by Jet Fighters and tanks and mortars and other cowardly long range weapons of mass destruction ?

where was the "great and glorious STATE OF ISRAEL" prior to WW2 ?? who lived on the land just prior to WW2? simple question. When the boatloads of jewish refugees landed in Palestine, who did the land belong to ? Have a look :

http://www.juancole.com/images-ext/2010/03/map-story-of-palestinian-nationhood.jpg

so let us flip this around. if there was a piece of land in 1945 that was 99% controlled by the jews, and a decision was made to dump a whole lot of arabs on this land, would you still be so keen to support the invading army ?

Lol. That map again. That's the 5th or 6th time some one eyed Hero has tried to pass that off IN THIS THREAD ALONE.

 

[sand_man]

Hamas treatment of their own people makes Apartheid look like kindergarten. Make no mistake, Hamas kill, torture and rule with an iron fist.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1710.htm

 

[LazyLion]

where was the "great and glorious STATE OF ISRAEL" prior to WW2 ?? who lived on the land just prior to WW2? simple question. When the boatloads of jewish refugees landed in Palestine, who did the land belong to ? Have a look :

http://www.juancole.com/images-ext/2010/03/map-story-of-palestinian-nationhood.jpg

The land was under the control of Britain just prior to WW2, and before WW1 it was part of the Ottoman empire.
That map has been debunked as false many, many times already.

 

[Pynet]

Hamas are terrorists, elected or not any organisation that shoots missiles indiscriminately at civilians are terrorists.

Thats what Israel is doing???? If you still dont see it count with your fingers how many civilians have died on each side by missiles???

If you still dont get it there is no hope for you ..............

 

[lived666]

actually, the entire issue is due to radical and racist zionism. hellbent on the concept of occupying the land at all costs, human life be damned! you speak of warmongers, yet WHO are the ones dying in the hundreds? Whose blood is being spilt ? whose children are being blown to pieces by Jet Fighters and tanks and mortars and other cowardly long range weapons of mass destruction ?

where was the "great and glorious STATE OF ISRAEL" prior to WW2 ?? who lived on the land just prior to WW2? simple question. When the boatloads of jewish refugees landed in Palestine, who did the land belong to ? Have a look :

http://www.juancole.com/images-ext/2010/03/map-story-of-palestinian-nationhood.jpg

so let us flip this around. if there was a piece of land in 1945 that was 99% controlled by the jews, and a decision was made to dump a whole lot of arabs on this land, would you still be so keen to support the invading army ?

There have always been Jews in Israel. Most of the Palestinians were migrants anyhow, heck even Arafat was Egyptian

 

[LazyLion]

So you are saying that Chosen Ones should not be ALSO blamed for their senseless deaths? Please clarify.

the chosen ones? God's children? Who the heck are you talking about? This is not the Lord of the Rings thread.

 

[Cray]

It really is pointless debating with people who are hell bent on supporting the terrorists at any cost.
I say let's just let the IDF do their thing and the people of Gaza can pick up their dead and the pieces of their lives again when this is all over and they can then ask themselves if this really was worth it all.... again.

Quick question, do you fully support what the IDF is doing? Am just interested to know if you have any criticism for what they are doing? Are you fully okay with all the civilian deaths?

 

[LazyLion]

Lol. That map again. That's the 5th or 6th time some one eyed Hero has tried to pass that off IN THIS THREAD ALONE.

come on, be kind... it's all they have to cling onto.

 

[Spizz]

So you are saying that Chosen Ones should not be ALSO blamed for their senseless deaths? Please clarify.

Hamas stop bombing Israel, IDF stop bombing Gaza.

Why is that so hard to understand? The tiniest bit of research reveals the intentions of Hamas. They feel nothing for the Palestinians and are using them to their own end. That they have a willing partner in the from of the IDF is just wonderful for them and their cause.

 

[Cray]

Thats what Israel is doing???? If you still dont see it count with your fingers how many civilians have died on each side by missiles???

If you still dont get it there is no hope for you ..............

There are terrorists and crimes being committed on both sides, neither side is blameless.

 

[LazyLion]

Quick question, do you fully support what the IDF is doing? Am just interested to know if you have any criticism for what they are doing? Are you fully okay with all the civilian deaths?

This is what I think about the situation.... excellent article by the way....
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118788/israels-war-gaza-morally-justified

 

[LazyLion]

BERLIN BANS ANTI-SEMITIC SLOGAN AT GAZA PROTESTS

Berlin authorities say they've banned pro-Gaza protesters from chanting an anti-Semitic slogan and are investigating a sermon by a radical imam who called on Muslims to kill Jews.

Since the outbreak of violence between Israel and Gaza, participants at anti-Israel demonstrations across Germany have frequently used anti-Semitic slogans and also called for Jews to be gassed. Jewish groups have expressed shock and disgust about the growing anti-Semitism.

Police spokeswoman Cosima Pauluhn said Tuesday that protesters have been banned from using the rallying cry they've been using until now. She added that Jewish groups and several individuals had pressed charges against the sermon by a radical imam calling on worshippers at Berlin's Al-Nur mosque last week to murder Jews. She said police are investigating the incident.


Source : Sapa-AP /kd
Date : 22 Jul 2014 10:57

 

[Hiro ZA]

The land was under the control of Britain just prior to WW2, and before WW1 it was part of the Ottoman empire.
That map has been debunked as false many, many times already.

exactly! was it owned by the great and glorious empire of zionism ? nope. were they living on the land? nope. They were living in Europe at the time and the land was populated by Arabs. so please, rather just be honest and upfront and say that you fully support the wholesale slaughter of any man, woman or child who stands in the way of your great dream of a zionist state of israel. At least have the decency to admit as such.

 

[LazyLion]

That is what is behind ALL of this. Anti-Semitism. Hatred for Israel. A complete denial of their right to exist as a people.

 

[Spizz]

exactly! was it owned by the great and glorious empire of zionism ? nope. were they living on the land? nope. They were living in Europe at the time and the land was populated by Arabs. so please, rather just be honest and upfront and say that you fully support the wholesale slaughter of any man, woman or child who stands in the way of your great dream of a zionist state of israel. At least have the decency to admit as such.

I'm not sure if you're aware of a book called the bible? Now I don't follow the book myself, but it's quite a nice story of a Jewish chap and his pals who lived in the area today known as Israel roughly 2000 years ago.

HTH

 

[Hiro ZA]

This is what I think about the situation.... excellent article by the way....
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118788/israels-war-gaza-morally-justified

wow, so one zionist author agrees with the Israel Occupation Army action ? colour me surprised. have you taken a look at the GLOBAL protests in support of Gaza and against israel? has it sunk in that the ENTIRE WORLD can see this for the slaughter that it is ?? not just other Arabs, not just other Muslims, but people on countries as far and wide as Mexico and Venezuela.

 

[LazyLion]

exactly! was it owned by the great and glorious empire of zionism ? nope. were they living on the land? nope. They were living in Europe at the time and the land was populated by Arabs. so please, rather just be honest and upfront and say that you fully support the wholesale slaughter of any man, woman or child who stands in the way of your great dream of a zionist state of israel. At least have the decency to admit as such.

Dude, you need to study some history. The people living there hated the Ottoman empire just as much as they hated the Jews.
But there WERE Jews already living there among them... quite peacefully actually.
The conflict only flared up AFTER the Western nations called on the people living there to rise up against the Ottomans after the first world war.

 

[Hiro ZA]

That is what is behind ALL of this. Anti-Semitism. Hatred for Israel. A complete denial of their right to exist as a people.

Judaism <> Zionism

http://www.nkusa.org/

I hate Israel and zionism, but i do not hate Jews or Judaism.

 

[Cray]

That is what is behind ALL of this. Anti-Semitism. Hatred for Israel. A complete denial of their right to exist as a people.

You undermine your arguments when you take such a one sided view of things, anti-Semitism is not the same as criticism of Israel.