Conflict flares up in Gaza again

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Cray said:
Sorry, I haven't seen the many pro-Syrian government posters on these boards, perhaps I missed that thread. I think everyone understands that the Syrian oppression is horrific, we just don't seem to have many people on these boards willing to claim that the Syrian government are fully justified in what they are doing.

By the way, are you suggesting that if people don't voice criticism about every human rights atrocity they lose the right to criticise any of them?
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The lack of condemnation when Islamists are doing the slaughtering of innocent civilians by a certain local crowd are clear and very obvious.

Point and case look in this Boko Haram thread! How many pro Islamists are condemning their murders in the name of Allah? None!

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...tern-Nigeria-Official?p=13118233#post13118233
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
Their silence on way worse atrocities speaks volumes of their intent, though. Especially in light of the fact that it was Palestinians that were killed by the Syrian regime. More than 3 times the amount that have died so far in this latest conflict.

Which is my point, the outrage and bluster is huge when it comes to Israel but either non-existent or incredibly meek when it comes to atrocities elsewhere (even against Palestinians or other Muslims).

Same as in this thread, actually. "Oh yes, Hamas isn't nice, but ISRAEL IS EVULLLLL!" They can never quite get it right to condemn atrocities out of principle, but only because of the perpetrator.
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Who is they exactly?

I think most posters in this thread have been critical of Hamas and the IDF without resorting to hysterical chants of "Israel = Evil."
 
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Garyvdh said:
Anti-Semitic Rallies Held in Cities Across Germany
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/22/anti-semitic-rallies-held-in-cities-across-germany/

Gaza conflict: France criticises 'anti-Semitic' riot
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28402882

Anti-Semitic vandalism discovered at US country club
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crim...tic-vandalism-westwood-country-club/12962085/

Anti-Semitic letters left on cars in primarily Jewish US neighborhood
http://abc7chicago.com/religion/ant...cars-in-primarily-jewish-neighborhood/205979/

Anti-Semitic Graffiti Painted Across Stratford, UK
http://foxct.com/2014/07/21/anti-semetic-graffiti-painted-across-stratford/
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Again, not saying there isn't anti-Semitic feelings to a lot of the criticism, am just waiting for you to address Jewish criticism of Israel and let me know how that can be anti-Semitic?
 
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Cray said:
Who is they exactly?

I think most posters in this thread have been critical of Hamas and the IDF without resorting to hysterical chants of "Israel = Evil."
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Hiro, Pynet, tRoN, adielk etc.

If they even manage to criticise Hamas it's always as a segue into another anti-Israel rant.

Of course I agree level-headed criticism is possible, as I think you've done, and as I've tried to do throughout the thread.
 
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The_Traveller said:
oh great ! I thought you giving me links to the videos of the actual crime(s) being committed.
try again please ...
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You want to actually see people being executed? Go to TheYNC.com, liveleak.com or kaotic.com.
Plenty there to satisfy anybody's blood lust.
 
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Cray said:
Again, not saying there isn't anti-Semitic feelings to a lot of the criticism, am just waiting for you to address Jewish criticism of Israel and let me know how that can be anti-Semitic?
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Its not, criticizing policies is democratic but does not equal hate to Israel
Heck I think Israel is amazing but Netanyahu is a tard and a dick.
You on the other hand hate Israel and everything it stands for, so yeh you are anti Semitic....you just hiding that behind your hate for Israel.

You will still feel the same about Israel even if there is a peace agreement with the Palestinians, and the only reason is because it is a Jewish state.
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
Hiro, Pynet, tRoN, adielk etc.

If they even manage to criticise Hamas it's always as a segue into another anti-Israel rant.

Of course I agree level-headed criticism is possible, as I think you've done, and as I've tried to do throughout the thread.
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Fair enough, am not familiar enough with the posters involved to be able to make a comment either way. Perhaps too many people on this thread play the man and not the ball...
 
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Its not, criticizing policies is democratic but does not equal hate to Israel
Heck I think Israel is amazing but Netanyahu is a tard and a dick.
You on the other hand hate Israel and everything it stands for, so yeh you are anti Semitic....you just hiding that behind your hate for Israel.

You will still feel the same about Israel even if there is a peace agreement with the Palestinians, and the only reason is because it is a Jewish state.
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Please do not put words in my mouth, you are full of it. Please go back through my post history and find one post where I say Israel does not have the right to exist or that Jews should leave....

All I have argued for is an acceptance that the people living in Palestine before Israel was formed have a right to live there as well. That and the killing of civilians seems to be far to easy for the IDF>
 
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Wasn't there almost always an Israel?
Which before are you talking about?
 
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Cray said:
Please do not put words in my mouth, you are full of it. Please go back through my post history and find one post where I say Israel does not have the right to exist or that Jews should leave....

All I have argued for is an acceptance that the people living in Palestine before Israel was formed have a right to live there as well. That and the killing of civilians seems to be far to easy for the IDF>
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Many do without fear of being killed. In the same line it can be argued that people of Israel have a right to live there as well without being terrorised with suicide bombers and firing of rockets at civilians fearing for their life every day!
 
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Many do without fear of being killed. In the same line it can be argued that people of Israel have a right to live there as well without being terrorised with suicide bombers and firing of rockets at civilians fearing for their life every day!
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Again I agree but a lot of people in this thread argue on the basis that every Palestinian is a terrorist in training. The Palestinians are far too often judged by the actions of the extremists...
 
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