Conflict flares up in Gaza again

[marine1]

The IDF has held its fire since 9 am. Since that time, Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip have fired around 35 rockets at Israel, including one toward Haifa.


Speaks for itself Go and flatten the damn area once and for all.
Now everyone can see who the aggressors are.
Next barrage of fire and Israel must go in and sort this out once and for all

 

[alloytoo]

USA sponsor of Israel welcomed Jews with open arms. Israel welcomes all jews but dont allow palestinian Israeli citizens to bring in spouses.

So? A friend of mine's wife was deported from the UK.

All nations have border security (at least the one's you want to live in anyway).

 

[Ockie]

The IDF has held its fire since 9 am. Since that time, Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip have fired around 35 rockets at Israel, including one toward Haifa.


Speaks for itself Go and flatten the damn area once and for all.
Now everyone can see who the aggressors are.
Next barrage of fire and Israel must go in and sort this out once and for all

tsk tsk tsk.

 

[marine1]

Yes yes , Israel are victims in this whole saga.........jeez

No they are not but when attacked and they respond the usual suspects post the usual crap.
This was an attack from the Arabs, is that so hard for you to accept?

 

[alloytoo]

Any evidence to back that up ?

But a moment's google

http://peacewithrealism.org/headline/admit.htm

 

[falcon786]

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Yes, it's all Israel's fault.

Actually that looks like onlookers,these kids are so desensitised to war and they probably aspire to fight to free themselves also,who can blame them after all the death and oppression Israel exposes them to DAILY.It definitely doesn't look like anybody is keeping them there or asked them to stand in between them and the IDF.

 

[daveza]

https://www.google.co.za/search?q=h...aA7Qa79IGABg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=775

Nope - evidence that they are using their OWN children.

 

[marine1]

You can post all the facts and evidence you want, Arabs and their supporters are not interested in facts they just want Jews / Israel gone

 

[marine1]

Actually that looks like onlookers,these kids are so desensitised to war and they probably aspire to fight to free themselves also,who can blame them after all the death and oppression Israel exposes them to DAILY.It definitely doesn't look like anybody is keeping them there or asked them to stand in between them and the IDF.

Riiiight and the kids on that building that was housing weapons and the IDF had to abort the strike?
Hamas knew by sending out kids onto the rooftop they would abort.

 

[daveza]

And on the other side...

 

[falcon786]

I am going to ask this question again cos I dont think it was answered and reference was once again made to it , I read the below in an article a few days ago , I want to know if its true. ? According to articles I read it is , is there another side to it though ?

In 1947 Israel was given 56% of the whole of Palestine but since then they occupied about 80% of Palestinian land today.

The IDF has held its fire since 9 am. Since that time, Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip have fired around 35 rockets at Israel, including one toward Haifa.


Speaks for itself Go and flatten the damn area once and for all.
Now everyone can see who the aggressors are.
Next barrage of fire and Israel must go in and sort this out once and for all

Typical,you claim the Palestinians are the aggressors but you cant back it up with any meaningful facts,when confronted with the reality of the situation you look to petty things like ceasefires which have achieved nothng in the long term or in the past and ignore the real big truths which tell the big picture story.The statement he highlighted paints a very strong picture of what the whole fight is about so go ahead and address his question if you have the guts to,unless you are too chicken to address it because addressing it might mean throwing logic out the door and making yourself seem like a hard-liner yet again.

 

[alloytoo]

You are misunderstanding me,I agree completely its not genocider.But from a time line perspective the only way forward for Israel if they want the rest of the land without incorporating Palestinians into there land is genocide hence why I said "almost" genocide,implying tense.I honestly believe the situation is that bad out there right now and I can see such an outcome going forward,as I said the only thing holding Israel back is the negative press and possible backlash that'll come with it.Honestly if they could have they would have,you want proof?Look no further than on this very thread,marine1's attitude shows this hard-line Zionist stance clearly when he says dammed if you do dammed if you don't.

Oh so the "almost genocide" ignores 70 years of Israeli military behaviour and focuses on an anonymous poster on a South African website expressing his personal opinion?

Tell me do you still "almost" (that is to say may in the future but I don't really know) beat your wife?

Not really no the plan was flawed and favoured the Zionists,if the plan was fair then they would have gladly accepted it.

But some did accept it, the others thought that might would prevail, they really shouldn't complain because it hasn't.

Lol easy for you to say,your ancestors were not living in what is now Israel farming peacefully before the worst mistake in the last century by the UN in 1948 gave the sovereignty of your lands away to Israel.

The only mistake I see is that some people chose not to become part of Israel. Those that did enjoy far more freedoms than their neighbours.

 

[falcon786]

And on the other side...

That is disgusting,what kind of animals do this to children,what on earth have I just seen!:wtf:

Clearly those kids are tied and restrained in place and not there on their own accord.

 

[alloytoo]

Bru lets just get a little serious here , apologies for the foul language but dont talk *** to me. Dont even for once second blame the death of kids on their parents when they are killed in the bedrooms , bombed in their sleep , while they eat etc because their neighbors are targets. Sies man , are you that blinded ? What about the young man that was killed trying to watch the world cup at shack on the beach , who was his neighbor ?

Your lack of flat our denial suggests we should have your children removed before you fit them out for "special" vests.

It's interesting, even Hamas representatives have said that Israel takes extraordinary measures to avoid civilian casualties.

 

[marine1]

Typical,you claim the Palestinians are the aggressors but you cant back it up with any meaningful facts,when confronted with the reality of the situation you look to petty things like ceasefires which have achieved nothng in the long term or in the past and ignore the real big truths which tell the big picture story.The statement he highlighted paints a very strong picture of what the whole fight is about so go ahead and address his question if you have the guts to,unless you are too chicken to address it because addressing it might mean throwing logic out the door and making yourself seem like a hard-liner yet again.

Lol its hysterical arguing with Muslims.
Do you understand now or do you need pictures drawn?
Your friends you hold in such high regard broke a ceasefire indicating they want more bloodshed, now dont come cry here again when that happens. MMMMKAY?
I know your blind hatred for Jews and Israel clouds your perception of reality.

Hamas broke the ceasfire.....Hamas will now pay the price.

 

[marine1]

That is disgusting,what kind of animals do this to children,what on earth have I just seen!:wtf:

Clearly those kids are tied and restrained in place and not there on their own accord.

Do you know the reason that "kid" was restrained? Sorry but I am so tired of your propaganda and the lies coming out of anything remotely connected to Arabs.

Prove the pictures are what you say or shut up perhaps?

 

[marine1]

And on the other side...

Links to the real true story of what happened or is this more BS pictures in the propaganda war?

 

[marine1]

http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2012/05/19/5-anti-idf-lies-which-turned-viral/

 

[falcon786]

Oh so the "almost genocide" ignores 70 years of Israeli military behaviour and focuses on an anonymous poster on a South African website expressing his personal opinion?

Lol did you even read what you quoted,go ahead and read it again.It addresses your question already including your 70 years argument.

Tell me do you still "almost" (that is to say may in the future but I don't really know) beat your wife?

I'm afraid that's largely irrelevant since you have no idea of any conflict between myself and my wife or even if I am married in the first place,but the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is open for all to see.

But some did accept it, the others thought that might would prevail, they really shouldn't complain because it hasn't.

Well since logic in the UN didn't prevail I guess they took their chances,still the UN's mistake at the end of the day,giving in to Zionist pressure is what started this whole mess.

The only mistake I see is that some people chose not to become part of Israel. Those that did enjoy far more freedoms than their neighbours.

"Far more freedoms" interesting choice of words,so they are still not free then?

 

[sparticus]

The only mistake I see is that some people chose not to become part of Israel. Those that did enjoy far more freedoms than their neighbours.

You see maybe thats the problem , why become part of Israel ? Why could the jewish immigrants not become part of Palestine ? I mean you telling people that lived there that they must pack up share and embrace a new world controlled by people that mostly will come from Europe.