Conflict flares up in Gaza again

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OrbitalDawn

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Israel has 80% of the land so of course they do.Had a single secular state called Palestine been formed they would have still been Palestinians and living in Palestine.

Why do you think this would have worked in the context of the time?

falcon786 said:
Turns out that's just what they did after all.Cauldron has been boiling ever since.

"They" didn't do it, the Arab countries who chose war instead of nation building did.

falcon786 said:
How many indigenous Jews were there at the time and how many indigenous Non Jews?How much land was owned by each?

I'm not sure, but for example the city of Tel Aviv was formed on the back of existing communities in the region, such as Jaffa, which is bloody ancient. Old Yishuv refers to the Jewish communities who lived in the region. Long and deep history there.

Seems the Jewish National Fund owned about 4% of Palestine by 1948, which was about 54% of land owned by Jews, which is a miniscule amount.

I also notice how, during the British Mandate, it was illegal to transfer land except to Arab Palestinians.

falcon786 said:
Isis wants to create a Caliphate,Jews were living peacefully under the caliphate in the area according your own statement just a few posts earlier.

Yeah, and? They're Arabs who want to boot out indigenous people and create their own country. And the 1 million Jews who were booted out of their homes by Arabs is another example of your question.

And I didn't say they were living peacefully. I said they, in fact, were not peaceful any more as nationalism was a growing trend of the time in the area.

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So are they given equal rights in every respect like citizens should be given?

Yep. Israeli citizens get full rights, non-citizens don't, as in every country on earth.

There are tensions and cases of discrimination, obviously, as there are anywhere, including in SA. But again, for some perspective - look how Jews are treated in all the countries around them, and I refer again to the mass expulsion and persecution of Jews that took place in that time.

There are Arabs in the Knesset, on the Israeli Cabinet, Generals in the Israeli Army, leading academics, and there are Arab judges on the Supreme Court.
 

marine1

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Lol seems I have struck a nerve? :D
Shell shocked? No. I dont live in Israel, no shells falling here.
The principle here is your blatant hatred for Jews/ Israel. They are here to stay. I know how that must anger you though.
Try argue the facts not the man?
Let me guess where you learned this hate?
 

OrbitalDawn

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right
so we have established many jewish people are against any occupation / zionism / attacks on palestine - are there some pics of palestinians protesting against rocket attacks against israel.

i'm sure there must be some, just none posted here

Well grant, one must remember that the balance of power in this conflict is not even remotely equal.

Anyway, how about the President of Palestine? :)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4541732,00.html
 

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So? A friend of mine's wife was deported from the UK.

All nations have border security (at least the one's you want to live in anyway).
Erm note different rules for israeli citizens based on religion.
 

marine1

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Well grant, one must remember that the balance of power in this conflict is not even remotely equal.

Anyway, how about the President of Palestine? :)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4541732,00.html

The balance of power? Really?
Then stop attacking the guy with bigger guns? Maybe then you wont have deaths and moan to the world about your situation?
Who broke the ceasefire? Who attacked who first?
Are you that ridiculous that you think its ok for them to keep attacking Israel then when the going gets tough and you get a hiding you run to the liberal fctard media and this is the result?
My god in heaven

Oh and Abas is not denouncing it, he is supporting Hamas

Abbas did not directly mention or lay blame for the attacks on Hamas or any other organization, despite Hamas claiming responsibility for several of the bouts of rocket fire, including the nine rockets fired at Ashdod on Friday morning, one of which struck a gas station and severely wounded one person.
 
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