Conflict flares up in Gaza again

[Seriously]

So Hamas firing hundreds of rockets at random sites (not knowing who/what is there) in Israel is OK?

In the eyes of Islamic terrorist supporters that would be OK if Hamas was able to kill young Israelis. But because Israel defend their people against the failed Hamas attacks these pro Islamic keyboard warrior idiots only condemn the one side they hate. Liars I say, fanatic liars!

 

[falcon786]

So Hamas firing hundreds of rockets at random sites (not knowing who/what is there) in Israel is OK?

I haven't been vocal about the children Israel has killed in its bombing normally in this entire thread as its possible that the children were in the wrong place at the wrong time but this particular incident is chilling to say the least.

 

[MickeyD]

I haven't been vocal about the children Israel has killed in its bombing normally in this entire thread as its possible that the children were in the wrong place at the wrong time but this particular incident is chilling to say the least.

I agreed with the latter. My response was regarding your "You're no better than the animals that perpetrated this crime against children aged 7-11 years old."

 

[Seriously]

I haven't been vocal about the children Israel has killed in its bombing normally in this entire thread as its possible that the children were in the wrong place at the wrong time but this particular incident is chilling to say the least.

What an atypical retort for an excuse. Are you not even ashamed?

The children were not at the wrong place at the wrong time as the Islamic terrorists Hamas are placing them there. See previous photos in this thread. These kids on the beach I would say was most probably at the wrong place at the wrong time as if you claim the Israeli soldiers specifically targets kids you are an even bigger liar!

 

[falcon786]

Link us to where you were condemning other casualties of war in Syria, Chechnya, Iraq or anywhere so I can see if you are truthful to your claims and words! I have my doubts tho, fecking big doubts and if you cannot I call you a liar!

This is a "Seriously" pathetic move from you,instead of condemning a brutal and intentional attack against innocent children you would rather move the goal posts just to take the emphasis of what they have done,this isn't a Syria,Chechnya,Iraq or any other thread,if you want my responses to those then go read those threads.

This is my response to a specific incident in Gaza On a Gaza thread.If you cant condemn this act then you are a worthless piece of dirt.

 

[marine1]

Typical responses.Only excuses, no humanity or outrage for those 4 innocent kids that just lost their lives for playing hide and seek to one of the most advanced militaries in the world with billions of dollars in technology that "couldn't see it was innocent children"(we all know that will be what the investigations will "reveal").

You are a disgrace, go and look what I posted when I posted a link to these deaths

 

[falcon786]

I love how you jump to condemn this, but you have nothing to say about the video posted on the previous page with guys launching rockets with kids standing around.

That tells us all we need to know about your "objectivity".

Oh snap!

Gary you act so "holier than thou" on the forum but if you cant condemn this act without making up excuses or changing the topic then it speaks volumes about your humanity to all reading this thread.Enough said.

 

[daveza]

The children were not at the wrong place at the wrong time as the Islamic terrorists Hamas are placing them there.

Any evidence at all to support this in this specific incident ?

Thought not.

Your lack of condemnation speaks volumes.

 

[falcon786]

You are a disgrace, go and look what I posted when I posted a link to these deaths

I might have missed it what post number?

 

[Seriously]

This is a "Seriously" pathetic move from you,instead of condemning a brutal and intentional attack against innocent children you would rather move the goal posts just to take the emphasis of what they have done,this isn't a Syria,Chechnya,Iraq or any other thread,if you want my responses to those then go read those threads.

This is my response to a specific incident in Gaza On a Gaza thread.If you cant condemn this act then you are a worthless piece of dirt.

So you claim the attack on the kids were intentional. You really are thin up there aint you?

Did you also condemn the suicide bombings in Israel. Did you also condemn the Israeli injuries recently?

NO!

http://www.bdlive.co.za/world/midea...up-33000-troops-as-hamas-rockets-cause-injury

 

[marine1]

I might have missed it what post number?

1430 I posted the article as well

 

[Grant]

I had returned to my small seaside hotel around 4 p.m. to file photos to New York when I heard a loud explosion. My driver and I rushed to the window to see what had happened. A small shack atop a sea wall at the fishing port had been struck by an Israeli bomb or missile and was burning. A young boy emerged from the smoke, running toward the adjacent beach.

I grabbed my cameras and was putting on body armor and a helmet when, about 30 seconds after the first blast, there was another. The boy I had seen running was now dead, lying motionless in the sand, along with three other boys who had been playing there.

By the time I reached the beach, I was winded from running with my heavy armor. I paused; it was too risky to go onto the exposed sand. Imagine what my silhouette, captured by an Israeli drone, might look like as a grainy image on a laptop somewhere in Israel: wearing body armor and a helmet, carrying cameras that could be mistaken for weapons. If children are being killed, what is there to protect me, or anyone else?

I watched as a group of people ran to the children’s aid. I joined them, running with the feeling that I would find safety in numbers, though I understood that feeling could be deceptive: Crowds can make things worse. We arrived at the scene to find lifeless, mangled bodies. The boys were beyond help. They had been killed instantly, and the people who had rushed to them were shocked and distraught.

Earlier in the day, I had photographed the funeral for a man and a 12-year-old boy. They had been killed when a bomb hit the car in which they were riding south of Gaza City, severely injuring an older woman with them.

There is no safe place in Gaza right now. Bombs can land at any time, anywhere.

A small metal shack with no electricity or running water on a jetty in the blazing seaside sun does not seem like the kind of place frequented by Hamas militants, the Israel Defense Forces’ intended targets. Children, maybe four feet tall, dressed in summer clothes, running from an explosion, don’t fit the description of Hamas fighters, either.

from the account above, it would seem the kids were inside the structure, and if so obviously could not been seen.
then, when the structure was 1st hit, one of the kids emerged.
i'm guessing here, but at that point, whoever had some sort of visual, seeing movement seconds after the initial launch, hit the "fire button" again - remember, there was only 30 seconds between the 2 explosions, including the time the weapon / bomb / missile takes from launch to hit it's target, so the time frame is exceptionally narrow.
this is all pure speculation on my part, & i am certainly not making any form of excuse for the killing of innocent people, be they children or adults.

having said that, the usa & israel share a lot of technology.
i was on a us warship that was in cape town a few years back & went on a tour with some people into what would be classified a restricted area.
a lot of equipment was cloaked with sheeting of sorts so it could not be seen.
we were however shown one of the targeting systems on board.
it's operator explained to us that the system could track a specific target, the size of a small bird amongst a flock of about 50 others at a distance up to 20km away - of course, there was no mention as to how accurate any associated firing system may have been.
so i am guessing the israeli military probably have very similar, if not more accurate systems at their disposal

 

[TysonRoux]

Agreed.

Are you also vocal in condemning the atrocities committed by the Palestinian Hamas animals?

If I come across something as vile as this committed by Hamas purposely and clearly wiping out Israelli children then yes I will condemn it.Doesnt matter which side you favour,violence against children is always wrong.Leave them out of it.

Judging from others posts, it is clear that people around here have reason not to believe what you claim.

There's been loads of examples in this thread of Palestinian Hamas atrocities and crimes against humanity for you to condemn, but as others are pointing out, you are selective in condemnation.

 

[lived666]

UN agency find 20 rockets in Gaza school

UNRWA investigating discovery of 20 rockets found in empty Gaza school
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ting-20-rockets-empty-gaza-school-palestinian

The UNRWA condemned the incident as a "flagrant violation" of international law, adding that the rockets had been removed and the "relative parties" had been informed.

 

[marine1]

Three charged over Palestinian teen murder

Well done this is how to behave. Swift justice.
Would be nice if Hamas would react the same way

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Three-Jews-charged-over-Palestinian-teen-murder-20140717



Jerusalem - Israeli prosecutors indicted three men on Thursday over the kidnapping and murder of a Palestinian teenager who was burned to death this month, the justice ministry said.

The identity of those charged was not disclosed by the ministry, which simply stated that one was a 29-year-old from the West Bank settlement of Adam.

The others were 16-year-olds, one from Jerusalem and the other Beit Shemesh, an Israeli town west of Jerusalem. All were from the same family.

Mohammed Abu Khder, 16, was kidnapped from east Jerusalem on 2 July and burned to death in a suspected revenge attack for the abduction and killing of three Israeli teenagers.

The three Israeli youths face separate charges over the attempted kidnapping of another Palestinian, aged 7, from the east Jerusalem neighbourhood of Beit Hanina, as well as alleged arson attacks on Palestinian-owned cars.

Two of them are also accused of setting alight a Palestinian shop in the town of Izmeh, a West Bank village near Israel, the ministry said in a statement.

An Israeli government legal adviser quoted in the media denounced the attacks as "shocking acts of racism against innocent people".

Khder's murder followed the abduction and killing of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank last month.

Conflict

It led to days of violent protests in east Jerusalem that quickly spread to Arab towns across Israel, with stone-throwers fighting pitched battles with riot police.

That in turn sparked a new conflict between Israel and Hamas, with the Jewish state launching an aerial bombing campaign on 8 July against the Gaza Strip that has killed at least 230 Palestinians.

One Israeli has been killed.

Israel's internal security agency, Shin Bet, this week disclosed confessions of three Jewish extremists who said they kidnapped and killed Khder in revenge for the murder of the three Israelis by Palestinian militants.

The trio had decided to kill an Arab, and equipped themselves with cable ties, petrol and other materials, and had randomly chosen Abu Khder as their victim, it said.

Shin Bet also said at the time that the suspects were all related.

On 1 July, the suspects had tried to kidnap a child elsewhere in east Jerusalem, but were thwarted by the youth's mother.

Police said the three had scoured east Jerusalem neighbourhoods in search of a victim before happening on Abu Khder.

After forcing him into the car, they struck him on the head and drove to a forest in west Jerusalem, where they poured flammable liquid on him and set him alight.

An initial forensic report showed smoke in his lungs, indicating he was alive when set alight. A lawyer for the family told AFP his body had been burnt beyond recognition.

 

[zippy]

This is a "Seriously" pathetic move from you,instead of condemning a brutal and intentional attack against innocent children you would rather move the goal posts just to take the emphasis of what they have done,this isn't a Syria,Chechnya,Iraq or any other thread,if you want my responses to those then go read those threads.

This is my response to a specific incident in Gaza On a Gaza thread.If you cant condemn this act then you are a worthless piece of dirt.

The UN has found rockets which where being stored in a school. This is a violation of international law. But then your Hamas friends are exempt from international law. They can store rockets in schools and fire them at civilian targets with impunity.

 

[daveza]

The UN has found rockets which where being stored in a school. This is a violation of international law.

And Israeli bombing of a hospital is okay ?

 

[Spizz]

And Israeli bombing of a hospital is okay ?

Fsck me dude, none of it is okay.

Hamas stop, Israel stop. What part of that is difficult to understand?

 

[daveza]

Fsck me dude, none of it is okay.

Hamas stop, Israel stop. What part of that is difficult to understand?

The Israel and hamas bit unfortunately.

 

[zippy]

Fsck me dude, none of it is okay.

Hamas stop, Israel stop. What part of that is difficult to understand?

According to them its perfectly fine for Hamas to target civilians. But Israel.. noooooo.

Then the Hamas cowards hide in schools and behind women and children.