Conflict flares up in Gaza again

[daveza]

Then the Hamas cowards hide in schools and behind women and children.

No question about that.

 

[LazyLion]

Gary you act so "holier than thou" on the forum but if you cant condemn this act without making up excuses or changing the topic then it speaks volumes about your humanity to all reading this thread.Enough said.

YOU are the despicable one and are not worth replying to or even debating with. You have no right to be calling others to account, when your own record of condemnation has been sporadic and extremely one sided to say the least.

 

[Venom~]

According to them its perfectly fine for Hamas to target civilians. But Israel.. noooooo.

Then the Hamas cowards hide in schools and behind women and children.

And the way to get to Hamas in the schools is to bomb the school ??????
What kind of warped logic is this ?

And by the way its not Israel defending itself its Palestine , Israel is the occupier and Palestine the occupied. Under the Geneva Convention they have every right to defend themselves against the occupying force .
And make no mistake it is a force , and the casualty is the poor , women and children .
Compare the casualty between the sides 209 dead 1560 injured vs 3 dead no injuries

Anyone who cant see the truth in this is blind .

 

[Spizz]

And the way to get to Hamas in the schools is to bomb the school ??????
What kind of warped logic is this ?

You forgot to say that hiding in schools is a despicable and cowardly act in the first place.

And by the way its not Israel defending itself its Palestine , Israel is the occupier and Palestine the occupied. Under the Geneva Convention they have every right to defend themselves against the occupying force .
And make no mistake it is a force , and the casualty is the poor , women and children .
Compare the casualty between the sides 209 dead 1560 injured vs 3 dead no injuries

Anyone who cant see the truth in this is blind .

What part of Gaza are Israel occupying?

And again the mention of Israel's Iron dome doing it's job. Maybe they should take it down to even up the numbers a bit?

 

[LazyLion]

And the way to get to Hamas in the schools is to bomb the school ??????
What kind of warped logic is this ?

And by the way its not Israel defending itself its Palestine , Israel is the occupier and Palestine the occupied. Under the Geneva Convention they have every right to defend themselves against the occupying force .
And make no mistake it is a force , and the casualty is the poor , women and children .
Compare the casualty between the sides 209 dead 1560 injured vs 3 dead no injuries

Anyone who cant see the truth in this is blind .

I don't think anyone in this thread does not regret the loss of woman and children who are innocently and unknowingly dragged into the conflict.
But Hamas is also to blame for dragging them in there.
Take a look here....
This is how their buddies in Syria do it, and Hamas is known to do the same thing...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=820466607966091&set=vb.202904329722325&type=2&theater

 

[LazyLion]

NEW GAZA VIOLENCE KILLS 3 CHILDREN, HIKES TOLL TO 234

An Israeli air strike in Gaza killed three children on Thursday, medics said, after a humanitarian lull in a 10-day conflict that has killed 234 Palestinians.

The strike hit the Sabra neighbourhood in the centre of Gaza, killing three children from the same family, emergency services spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra told AFP.

Their deaths were the first to follow the end of a five-hour humanitarian ceasefire, requested by the UN, which brought some respite for residents of the besieged Palestinian territory.

Before the ceasefire took effect at 10:00 (0700 GMT), Israeli tank fire killed three men in their twenties in the southern city of Rafah, Qudra said.

One Israeli has also been killed by rockets fired by Palestinian militants.

The Rafah deaths came after another seven people were killed overnight.

Two men were killed in Gaza City, another two in Deir al-Balah and a fifth in northern Beit Lahiya.

One man was also killed in southern Khan Yunis and another in Rafah, Qudra said.

In addition, 1,690 people had been injured during conflict, Qudra said.

Israel and the Hamas movement announced Thursday they were observing a five-hour humanitarian truce called for by the United Nations.

According to figures provided by the Gaza-based Palestinian Centre for Human Rights (PCHR), more than 80 percent of the conflict's victims have been civilians.

The only Israeli casualty has been a civilian who died on Tuesday evening in a rocket strike near the Erez crossing, medics said. At least four Israelis have been seriously wounded.

Since the latest violence began before dawn on July 8, at least 1,021 rockets fired from Gaza have struck Israel, and another 256 have been shot down by the Iron Dome air defence system, army figures show.

During its campaign of air strikes aimed at halting the rocket fire, Israel has struck more than 1,750 "terror targets" across the coastal enclave, the army said.


Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Jul 2014 17:54

 

[marine1]

Fsck me dude, none of it is okay.

Hamas stop, Israel stop. What part of that is difficult to understand?

Spot on....what i have been saying all along. And israel have proved this

 

[Albereth]

With hamas track record the probably put the kids there after they got killed somewhere else

You'd expect a crater and body bits, wouldn't you?

 

[Spizz]

Arms caches, arms caches everywhere!

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/07/17/world/07GAZA-1/07GAZA-1-master675.jpg

Shocking sad and so infuriating.

 

[daveza]

With hamas track record the probably put the kids there after they got killed somewhere else

That's out of order - the incident has been well documented.

Wasn't it you that expected more from me ? This a cheap shot from you.

 

[Albereth]

That's out of order - the incident has been well documented.

Wasn't it you that expected more from me ? This a cheap shot from you.

Trouble with calling wolf.

 

[marine1]

You'd expect a crater and body bits, wouldn't you?

Well spotted young jedi

 

[marine1]

That's out of order - the incident has been well documented.

Wasn't it you that expected more from me ? This a cheap shot from you.

If israel was responsible then they must pay for that.
All I am saying is until evidence from an independent party comes out in would not put it past hamas.
They have been caught out how many times now doctoring footage ????

How is that a cheap shot

 

[Venom~]

With hamas track record the probably put the kids there after they got killed somewhere else

Actually the video of this is somewhat viral it shows an Israel war boat fire at the children and as they begin fleeing fire upon and kill 4 of them .
One of the french reporters states he was only moments before this playing soccer with the boys on the beach .
All this in view of a media encampment

IDF sources now briefing . Children were misidenitified as fleeing fighters



[video=youtube;Lr-iRHf5VMI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr-iRHf5VMI[/video]

 

[marine1]

Actually the video of this is somewhat viral it shows an Israel war boat fire at the children and as they begin fleeing fire upon and kill 4 of them .
All this in view of a media encampment

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Thanks I didn't see that I am in my phone.
Well if it's fact then the soldiers who did this must be brought up on war crimes and must be jailed . ****ing idiots

 

[daveza]

All I am saying is until evidence from an independent party comes out in would not put it past hamas.
They have been caught out how many times now doctoring footage ????

How is that a cheap shot

Yes, hamas is well known for doctoring footage but this incident happened in front of many journalists.

These dead children need some dignity, not being used as pawns in a fight they were born into.

 

[Grant]

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looking at those photos is like a bit of a deja vu moment for me:

as the uncle of one of the israeli kids said:
"There is no difference between [Arab] blood and [Jewish] blood. Murder is murder,"

these kids who may on any ordinary day have been happily playing soccer this afternoon are gone, murdered in cold blood - for what ?

 

[Venom~]

2.5 hours ago
3 children killed on the rooftop of their house after being targeted by an Israeli drone in Gaza


Mercy even God has mercy .....

 

[Venom~]

This was a letter written to the NY times
It pretty much sums everything up perfectly

Its so obvious that there is a massive propaganda campaign by the Israelis, People around the world are misinformed about the conflict in Palestine,thus its imperative that we do not be gullible to media....
"This gentlemen's response to a New York Times columnist's article about the Israel-Palestine problem, sums it all up.
" First, three Jewish people were killed. It's not clear who killed them. Why does Israel get to decimate a whole country for this? It seems that Hamas is the one trying to defend Palestine from an unjustified and brutal attack. If someone from Canada came over and killed a few Americans, and then we decided to destroy all of Canada, then yes, Canada would have a right to respond.
Second, Israel was created by the British as a Jewish state in 1948. Arabs were the majority, and Jews a much smaller minority at this time. Britain had no right to do this. The successors of colonizers are still colonizers. They may as well have created a Jewish state in Ireland or India. And the Irish or Indians, if such had been their fate, would have every right today to try to win back their land and to drive their oppressors from it.
Since its creation, Israel has engaged in a systematic campaign of colonialist expansion and oppression of the Palestinians. They are literally walled off from the rest of the world, blockaded, and subjugated in a land where they are lorded over by a racist regime that grants them no rights - no representation, no vote, no economic freedom. This has been acknowledged by the United Nations for some time. One can understand why the Palestinians fight for their freedom. One can see the parallels to apartheid in South Africa. There is little difference. It is an apartheid. Those you label as terrorists are the ones who have been terrorized. They have the right to fight for what has been taken from them. It is the state of Israel that terrorizes the Palestinians, has driven them from their homes, and keeps them in a cage. If the British took over part of America, and then designated it a Catholic state, and that state then drove everyone from their homes if they weren't Catholic and then put walls around the non-Catholics and economically isolated them, who would you side with?
Your characterization of the situation as one of fault on both sides ignores the fact that one side is the oppressed, Palestine, and the other side, Israel, is the oppressor. It ignores the history of wrongful takeover. Would you criticize a slave for striking its master? Did you call South Africans terrorists when they fought in the streets against the Afrikaners? If justice is to be done, there can be no peace between a slave and a slaver - there can only be liberation.
Consider that democracy is seldom seen as a solution, one with Arab representation and Jewish representation. The reason for this is that Israel does not want democracy - they want a religious state that gives no power to the Arabs who live there. This is completely contrary to western ideals. The media - you, and the politicians, in this country, should acknowledge the wrongful creation of the Jewish state, the continued oppression of the arab population, and the Palestinians’ fight for freedom."
~Kevin Satter

 

[Saba'a]

In the eyes of Islamic terrorist supporters that would be OK if Hamas was able to kill young Israelis. But because Israel defend their people against the failed Hamas attacks these pro Islamic keyboard warrior idiots only condemn the one side they hate. Liars I say, fanatic liars!

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