Conflict flares up in Gaza again

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daveza

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I am getting sick and tired of the children issue.
Who is keeping the kids there?

Who is keeping them where ?

They stay indoors they get bombed.

They use a taxi they get bombed.

They go to the beach they get bombed.

So where should they go - hospital ? No, that gets bombed.

So Israel cannot take any action against Hamas because of the inevitable deaths of children?

You asked how many are acceptable - the answer is none.

Yes, civilain deaths are inevitable but when they outnumber militant deaths by 5 to 1 then it's not war it's simply criminal.

Netanyahu imo is no better than any other murdering pig - including the hamas murdering pigs before you ask.
 

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Netanyahu imo is no better than any other murdering pig - including the hamas murdering pigs before you ask.
I cannot believe you really think that
A ground war is the only war to limit more civilian casualties
 

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I cannot believe you really think that
A ground war is the only war to limit more civilian casualties

I really believe that.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/

Netanyahu made it explicitly clear that he could never, ever, countenance a fully sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank.

He wasn’t saying that he doesn’t support a two-state solution. He was saying that it’s impossible.

“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan.”

Not relinquishing security control west of the Jordan, it should be emphasized, means not giving a Palestinian entity full sovereignty there.

It means not acceding to Mahmoud Abbas’s demands, to Barack Obama’s demands, to the international community’s demands.

This is not merely demanding a demilitarized Palestine; it is insisting upon ongoing Israeli security oversight inside and at the borders of the West Bank. That sentence, quite simply, spells the end to the notion of Netanyahu consenting to the establishment of a Palestinian state

Palestine will forever, or for as long as this thug is in charge, remain under the cosh.
 

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Who is keeping them where ?

They stay indoors they get bombed.

They use a taxi they get bombed.

They go to the beach they get bombed.

So where should they go - hospital ? No, that gets bombed.



You asked how many are acceptable - the answer is none.

Yes, civilain deaths are inevitable but when they outnumber militant deaths by 5 to 1 then it's not war it's simply criminal.

Netanyahu imo is no better than any other murdering pig - including the hamas murdering pigs before you ask.

How many kids died in the Malaysian plane that was shot down over Ukraine? Yet I see no one are marching yet! ;)
 

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I really believe that.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/



Palestine will forever, or for as long as this thug is in charge, remain under the cosh.

With good reason! THINK about it! A long while ago when Israel played the "lets have peace" game with the Palestinians they were met with a barrage of suicide bombers blowing up civilians and bus commuters! THINK again what happened when Gaza was taken over by Hamas? Rocket attacks and tunnels grew in ten folds. Think and imagine the terror in Israel if and when the Palestinians have their own state right in the heart of Israel. Do you really believe there will be peace? Once the Palestinian extremist Islamic scum like hamas have that free reign and ability to invite every scumbag in Iran and any other rogue Arab state to supply them with weapons of mass destruction, fighter jets and missiles that will be Israeli suicide in the likes not even seen under the Hitler genocide era! The bottom line is that there are those religious fanatics that would love to see Israel wiped of the map including all jews, like we see with some posting here, thats their religion and their self imposed "fatwa" and it will never stop. They believe in their virgins. The only way Israel can survive is to be in control of the region and what happens there!
 

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How many kids died in the Malaysian plane that was shot down over Ukraine? Yet I see no one are marching yet! ;)

lol , pathetic really. Do we know who shot down the plane ? Imagine we should have action over every isolated issue , if a plane gets shot down every day then by day 30 we have a march it would be more or less whats happening wrt the Palestine issue and the protest going on. Change your nic to jokingly , it seems more appropriate.
 

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Yep, No Muslim staged a march for any other incident like the one where Nigerian girls abducted or the murder of all those kids in the middle east and the Syrian war crimes. Muslim/Islamic bigotry at it's worst! I am starting to wonder what has become of the humanity part of Islam I so much respected of them!

Geez , we lined up the streets for days , protested online on social media , some are still until today. Maybe you only see what you want to see , you actually pathetic with your continual blind attack on Islam. Dont get off topic , hundreds are being murdered by the Islaelis , dont use your view on our so called lack of action on other atrocities to justify your support for the murders of woman and children.
 

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lol , pathetic really. Do we know who shot down the plane ? Imagine we should have action over every isolated issue , if a plane gets shot down every day then by day 30 we have a march it would be more or less whats happening wrt the Palestine issue and the protest going on. Change your nic to jokingly , it seems more appropriate.

There you have it. More deaths in 1 X plane attack and the resident moral crowd here comment like this ???
 

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I cannot believe you really think that
A ground war is the only war to limit more civilian casualties

I cannot believe anyone would really try and justify the actions of Israel and as a matter of fact urge them to take more lives. THAT says a lot of a person
 

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There you have it. More deaths in 1 X plane attack and the resident moral crowd here comment like this ???

Once again you blindly only see what you want , u really are a sad case. Do you know how many people died so far in the last few weeks ?

Do I feel bad about the plane ? FFS off course I do , I hope they catch the guilty and hang them high.
Does it mean I have to go and march tomorrow ? NO , ffs its so far an isolated issue and we dont even know who did it. Why not go march for the 3 Israels boys that was killed then ? Or the one Palestinian that was burnt alive ? Or have an independent march for the 4 boys that was bombed on a beach 3 days ago ?

When the Boka Haram kidnapped those girls after killing and raping woman before , it called for action because it was not an isolated case. That was a good example of what I mean. I stood like many against Boka Haram with the same enthusiasm against Israel a few days ago.
 

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I cannot believe anyone would really try and justify the actions of Israel and as a matter of fact urge them to take more lives. THAT says a lot of a person

Take more lives? We are saying grid of hamas those animals don't deserve life.
Nobody here is saying kill innocent civilians or kids .
We speak out about that.
Unlike you when 3 kids were kidnapped and murdered.
See the difference ????????
 

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Pressure mounts on Hamas to negotiate ceasefire as Gaza death toll rises

The people of Gaza faced the bloody consequences on Friday of Israel's dramatic escalation of the 10-day Gaza war and Hamas's intransigence in the face of mounting calls for a ceasefire to end a conflict that has so far claimed the lives of more than 270 people, many of them children.

With intense fighting forcing thousands of Palestinians to flee their homes, Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu warned that his military were ready for a "significant expansion" of the ground operation he has ordered to destroy Hamas tunnels dug under the border to Israel.

As diplomatic efforts to end the conflict continued in Cairo, Hamas was looking increasingly isolated in its refusal to negotiate a truce without concessions in advance. It wants prisoners released and the easing of the blockade on Gaza by both Israel and Egypt.

"[Thursday night's] operation came after Israel agreed to the Egyptian ceasefire proposal and to the UN initiative for a humanitarian truce," Netanyahu told his security cabinet. "In both cases, Hamas continued firing. We chose to commence this operation after we had exhausted the other possibilities."

The primary aim, he explained, was the destruction of tunnels used by Palestinian militants to launch attacks in Israel. There was "no guarantee of 100% success", he said.

The Israeli Defence Forces said its troops had located 13 tunnels in Gaza on Friday, tweeting pictures of shafts and openings. .

Israeli hardliners have called for the military campaign to extend its aims to crushing Hamas and retaking control of Gaza.

At Jordan's request, the UN security council was due to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon eastern standard time to discuss the crisis in Gaza.

The UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, has chastised Israel for ignoring calls for restraint: "I regret that despite my repeated urgings, and those of many regional and world leaders together, an already dangerous conflict has now escalated even further."

In Gaza, medical staff were overwhelmed by the numbers of injured rushed to hospital in the hours following the escalation of Israel's military campaign. Electricity was cut to most of the population as power lines were brought down. The UN said the number of people seeking sanctuary from the fighting in 34 shelters had almost doubled to 40,000 since the start of the ground invasion.

But with the Palestinian death toll rising steadily towards 300, it is the Hamas leadership that has come under increasing pressure from multiple international sources to accept an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

"The objective is to convince all the Palestinian factions to accept the ceasefire," one western diplomat told the Guardian.

French and Italian foreign ministers flew to Cairo, where negotiations have centred, to back Egypt's call for a prompt de-escalation in the conflict. Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, a Hamas rival, had argued until the small hours of Friday morning with representatives of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, another Gaza-based group, in a failed attempt to get them to agree to a truce.

On Friday Abbas flew to Turkey to ask the prime minister, Recep Erdogan – who has better relations with Hamas – to persuade the group to accept a ceasefire.

"I hope there will be an agreement – maybe Turkey and Qatar [another Hamas ally] will have something," said Gamal Shobky, Abbas's envoy in Cairo. "We need this quickly to stop Palestinian blood."

Egypt has promised that the leaders of all concerned parties can come immediately to Cairo to start formal talks about Gaza – but only once a ceasefire is agreed.

The Arab League has backed Egypt's call for a quick ceasefire for several days, while Egypt's foreign minister issued an unusually harsh criticism of Hamas's stance, even as Israeli troops crossed the border into Gaza.

Sameh Shoukry told Egypt's state-run news agency: "If Hamas had accepted the Egyptian proposal it could save the lives of at least 40 Palestinians" – a statement that reveals in stark terms how entrenched Egypt's opposition to Hamas has become.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/pressure-on-hamas-to-negotiate-gaza-ceasefire
 
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If Hamas had accepted the Egyptian proposal it could save the lives of at least 40 Palestinians" – a statement that reveals in stark terms how entrenched Egypt's opposition to Hamas has become.

Well, well? :D
 

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That's what's important regarding the incident ?!

People without children should really avoid commenting on the death of them.

It was a comment regarding the conflicting info. I meant to delete the question, once I had read later on, that one ran from the structure that was hit, towards the the three playing soccer. That he was playing hide and seek, must simply be incorrect.

I have children. I can comment on the death of anyone I feel like. As I said, their deaths are unfortunate. That does not mean people can just start yapping, that Israel deliberately targeted children. As Israel made clear, they thought it was militants.

Your overemphasized concern for the plight of the Gaza children, should be directed at hamas, who keep telling people that they must just carry on as usual and not run away to safer areas. They want the innocents to die in as high a number as possible. Contact them with your concern.

Here, your overemphasized concerns for Gaza children, with your anti Israel bias, are simply reducing empathy.
 

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Has any zionist marched against for the killing 4 10 yr old soccer players yet?
 
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